topic Window on two levels in Modeling

Window on two levels

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:57:09 GMT

I have a 230 brick veneer wall with a 70 stud wall above. I have placed a window on the upper level that is about 400 into the lower wall and want it to show on the floor plan below and also properly in the 3D perspective & Elevation.
How do I do this?

Re: Window on two levels

Barry Kelly — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:29:38 GMT

The easiest (and possibly only?) way is to create a complex profile wall for the entire stud wall on top of brick veneer wall (i.e. 6m high or so).
Then you can place the wall on the bottom floor and set it to 'show on all relevant stories' and with a 'Project with overhead' plan display.
Now place a single window at the height you want and make sure it is set to 'Symbolic' display.

You should see the window in both stories in plan and it will be in the correct location in 3D/elevation.

Barry.

Re: Window on two levels

Barry Kelly — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:03:24 GMT

However doing it this way will display the window in the wrong position if the upper stud wall does not line up with the front of the lower brick veneer wall.

I believe this is a bug as the opening reference line is set (in my case) to the face of the upper stud wall - making the 3d view correct.

The plan view seems to ignore the opening reference line location.

Barry.

Re: Window on two levels

Barry Kelly — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:21:31 GMT

The only way to fix the plan reveal offset problem is to set the window to display as 'Projected with Overhead' or 'Projected'.

But this causes 2 problems.
One is you lose the nice 2D view that was scripted into the window and the other is you must set the Floor Plan Cutting Plane height to a height the passes through the window - which may affect the view of other elements in your plan.

Barry.

Re: Window on two levels

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:39:08 GMT

You could also place two identical Windows, one in each Wall.
There is a 3D Detail level parameter for many Windows which can be set to OFF, in which case no 3D is generated, while the 2D will still be.

One concern with this solution is that both Windows will now be scheduled.
This can be solved relatively easily. For the Window with no 3D you can set a parameter to a specific value (like "User Defined 1" - one of its Custom Listing parameters). Then when you create your criteria for your schedule, make it so that Windows with a certain "User Defined 1" value are not shown in the schedule.

Re: Window on two levels

Stress Co_ — Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:00:32 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
This can be solved relatively easily. For the Window with no 3D you can set a parameter to a specific value (like "User Defined 1" - one of its Custom Listing parameters). Then when you create your criteria for your schedule, make it so that Windows with a certain "User Defined 1" value are not shown in the schedule.

"NIS"
(Not In Schedule)

Re: Window on two levels

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:34:49 GMT

1. In the Scheme Settings Dialog, in the Criteria panel you have to click the down arrow on the right of the Add button and use the Add Object Parameters option.
2. Set the field to Search criteria
3. Set field to "CONTAIN"
4. Type "WINDOW"
5. Click "FIND" button
6. Select Window from list (Most windows have the same parameter set mostly)
7. Find parameter "USER DEFINED 1"
8. Click "ADD" button
9. Click "OK" button
10. Criteria is added. Change field to "IS NOT"
11. Type some text in value field like "NIS"

Click "OK" to save Scheme.

After this is done select all your Windows you do not want to see in the schedule and set the parameter "USER DEFINED 1" to the value "NIS".

Re: Window on two levels

Stress Co_ — Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:06:24 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
11. Type some text in value field like "NIS"

Sorry if my post confused.
A well written explanation, Laszlo.