topic Re: Crown for the rake in Modeling

Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:14:19 GMT

Please-
I am struggling to make crown follow the angle of the rake. When I do it Elevation it doesn't appear in 3D. When I do it in Plan it remains horizontal.
Thanks for help

Re: Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:05:55 GMT

BTW- I still haven't figured this out. I have learned that there is no 3d representation when you attempt it in elevation view. So I am trying to make it happen in 3d but cannot manipulate the crown to folow the rake. I'm fairly certain this is a simple thing to do and I do feel dense for not figuring it out so if someone would please take pity on me I can get on with it and perhaps get a view to the client in time to not lose this job.
Thank you for any help

Re: Crown for the rake

Nando Mogollon — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:20:40 GMT

Hi there,
I'm kind of lost. Would you be able to post a couple of screenshots so we can help?

Re: Crown for the rake

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:04:03 GMT

What tool are you using to make your crown? If the Morph tool, then you can tube your way around in 3D if you grab the right handle and snap points.

Re: Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:45:35 GMT

I am attempting to use the crown molding found in the AC17 object library as a rake molding. Now I am struggling to reduce the size of my screenshot to upload to this forum

Re: Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:19:19 GMT

ok. Here is a screenshot showing the molding I want to use along the rake edge

Re: Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:43:23 GMT

I assume the AC 17 version of this crown molding does
not have a slope or pitch parameter as is also not possible
in previous versions.
A long time ago, I made a library part that is a sloped molding
that can be assigned any pitch, has independent miter angles
for the bottom and top ends, and has 54 different profile shapes.
If you think this part would be useful to you you are welcome
to it and I will send it to you via e-mail. Just tell me your e-mail address .
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Crown for the rake

vfrontiers — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 05:15:18 GMT

Follow these steps...

1. Copy geometry from Elevation Window on the the PLAN window.

2. Create RAKE crown with COMPLEX PROFILE as if it were LAYING DOWN on your site / floor

3. If there are no pieces that are perpendicular to the axis of rotation, draw a slab that provides that line...

4. Select all trim pieces and convert to MORPHS and BOOLEAN UNION them together.

5. Convert [reference] SLAB from step 3 to morph

6. Select and show trim + reference slab in 3d window...

7. Rotate all up in the 3d space 90 degrees (using the reference slab)

8. Drag into horizontal place in plan

9. Drag into vertical place in elevation

10. You could combine 8 & 9 by dragging into place in the 3d window....

Voila!

Special Note, if rake trim turns and runs along eave, you can use a COLUMN with the same complex profile as step 3b, convert and join with others prior to rotating...

Sound wordy, but give it a try and let me know how far you get...

Other special note... this only works with the MORPH tool... So earlier versions are on their own.

Re: Crown for the rake

vfrontiers — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 05:17:01 GMT

..AND.....

if you have funky end cuts (as I presume from your screenshot), simply SEO the resulting morph and RE-convert to morph (so you don't have the seo dependency to worry about)

Re: Crown for the rake

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:06:17 GMT

If you really like that library part shape, then size it as desired, select it, and then convert-to-morph. Then follow a variant of Duane's steps to rotate the. Morph into place and cut the ends.

Re: Crown for the rake

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:43:10 GMT

Thank you all for the input. I inelegantly solved my problem with the profiler tool and the beam tool. It didn't clean up as well as I hoped (using SEO) but it was adequate to get a preliminary view in the hands of the client. Thanks again to Peter for sending me his moldings which I have not yet been able to fool with. Dave

Re: Crown for the rake

Steve Jepson — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:52:25 GMT

Kingfish60 wrote:
I am attempting to use the crown molding found in the AC17 object library as a rake molding. Now I am struggling to reduce the size of my screenshot to upload to this forum

http://imageshack.us/

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