topic Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16 in Modeling

Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:39:06 GMT

In some situations while working in AC16 elements such as slab will be hard selected to be enlarged or reduced except clicked shut layer to another element and this element also occur when the slab has been piling up over the roof or beam or slab with another layer. Choosing slab will always hit the beam or other element.
This does not happen with the AC15.
Is any of this forum to see the same thing?
Thank you to everyone in this forum

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

David Maudlin — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:08:32 GMT

I've had a similar experience: select the Slab Tool, select a slab that has an edge adjacent to other elements, click on the edge of the slab and the Pet Palette does not appear. Or select the Arrow Tool, select a slab, click on an edge that is adjacent to other elements and a different element becomes selected and the slab cannot be edited. Does not happen in all cases, but necessitates moving the slab or hiding layers of other elements in order to get the Pet Palette to appear to edit the slab. Only occurs in AC 16, did not experience this in earlier versions.

Eddy: does this occur on both platforms (Mac and Windows)? I am only on Mac.

David

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:59:33 GMT

Hi David, This is also on the Windows platform.
I also use it on Mac experience the same, raises difficult Pet Palette when I click on the corners of the slab element for zooming in or out.
Even if the pet palette appears but is not meant instead of the other elements.
For example when I want to enlarge and click slab slab was apparently directed to a beam or other element adjacent or overlapping with the slab.
which in some cases is very difficult for me to have to get rid of some of the elements that accumulate on or off another layer element.
Usually possible with a single step to achieve this purpose is not the case.
Really what I mentioned is also experiencing the same thing.
It seems like this is a bug that should be fixed in the next hotfix
If this is not just what I had, I think it should be a priority on the improvement in the hotfix.
Thank you David has given the same opinion

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:23:13 GMT

Now that we are switching to 16 my users are finding that the pet palette for polygon edges does not always appear as well.
It appears to be intermittent so is difficult to duplicate.
But my users are complaining when there are multiple slab edges overlapping.
I have found that clicking on a corner brings up the pet palette with no trouble and then sometimes you cn go back to the edge ant the pet palette will appear - other times it still won't.
As I mentioned it is hard to reproduce.
The plan I have open at the moment is working perfectly (in this respect at least).

Is this a bug that GS is aware of?
If not I can try to report it but I can't always reproduce it.
Barry.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Stress Co_ — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:17:41 GMT

David wrote:
necessitates moving the slab or hiding layers of other elements in order to get the Pet Palette to appear to edit the slab.

Try bringing it forward in the display order.

I'm having the same problem with some fills.
The fill which is further forward is the one I'm able
to select and get the pet palette to appear.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

David Maudlin — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:18:00 GMT

Stress wrote:
David wrote:
necessitates moving the slab or hiding layers of other elements in order to get the Pet Palette to appear to edit the slab.
Try bringing it forward in the display order.

Thanks Marc, that will work, but then the adjacent slab is uneditable via the Pet Palette unless it is brought forward, so only one of two slabs is editable at any time.

David

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:15:07 GMT

Same here. Drives me insane, particularly if in a rush! Happens on my mac as well as my work machine (windows). This really needs a fix.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:09:53 GMT

hi all,

From what i gather from Eddy, you are having a hard time editing objects that overlap each other in AC16. I have a little work around for it, at least from our experience.

If we want to edit, say a slab and we click on the edge, then immediately the object that overlaps it gets selected. What i would normally do to work around this is select the slab first, then select the "slab" element from the tool box on the side, and edit it from there. Correct me if i am wrong, but this restricts AC to see the active element only thus allowing you to edit the slab alone.

It is similar by pressing ctrl (command) + A and AC selects all the elements on the model. Than selecting an element from your tool bar then pressing ctrl (command) + A then it will only select all the active chosen element.

I hope this is clear and understandable.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Ernest Atanasiu — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:05:33 GMT

I don't think it's a bug, but it's very annoying.

I think we need a keyboard shortcut to 'lock' the edited object after it was selected with the tab key. Or it should be automatically locked after using the tab key until you tab-select another object or click en empty area or hit 'esc'.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

David Maudlin — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:28:51 GMT

Da_RoCk wrote:
If we want to edit, say a slab and we click on the edge, then immediately the object that overlaps it gets selected. What i would normally do to work around this is select the slab first, then select the "slab" element from the tool box on the side, and edit it from there. Correct me if i am wrong, but this restricts AC to see the active element only thus allowing you to edit the slab alone.

The problem is not element selection, it is maintaining that selection when using the Pet Palette to edit the element. Also, it is a problem of the same type of adjacent element getting selected when needing to edit the originally selected element.

uisanata wrote:
I think we need a keyboard shortcut to 'lock' the edited object after it was selected with the tab key. Or it should be automatically locked after using the tab key until you tab-select another object or click en empty area or hit 'esc'.

We don't need a new function, we simply need AC 16 to behave like earlier versions.

David

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 03:48:15 GMT

David wrote:
Da_RoCk wrote:
If we want to edit, say a slab and we click on the edge, then immediately the object that overlaps it gets selected. What i would normally do to work around this is select the slab first, then select the "slab" element from the tool box on the side, and edit it from there. Correct me if i am wrong, but this restricts AC to see the active element only thus allowing you to edit the slab alone.
The problem is not element selection, it is maintaining that selection when using the Pet Palette to edit the element. Also, it is a problem of the same type of adjacent element getting selected when needing to edit the originally selected element.

Hi David,

Thanks for the reply. In order to maintain that selection, after you have selected that element and may it be that you are in the pet palette, i would select the element tool on the side then do the editing.

If what i understand is correct, i just encountered the same problem in what i am currently doing and it worked for us here.

Cheers

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

David Maudlin — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:38:40 GMT

Da_RoCk wrote:
David wrote:
Da_RoCk wrote:
If we want to edit, say a slab and we click on the edge, then immediately the object that overlaps it gets selected. What i would normally do to work around this is select the slab first, then select the "slab" element from the tool box on the side, and edit it from there. Correct me if i am wrong, but this restricts AC to see the active element only thus allowing you to edit the slab alone.
The problem is not element selection, it is maintaining that selection when using the Pet Palette to edit the element. Also, it is a problem of the same type of adjacent element getting selected when needing to edit the originally selected element.
Hi David,

Thanks for the reply. In order to maintain that selection, after you have selected that element and may it be that you are in the pet palette, i would select the element tool on the side then do the editing.

If what i understand is correct, i just encountered the same problem in what i am currently doing and it worked for us here.

Cheers

Da_RoCk:

The problem with my situation is that the two adjacent elements are both Slabs, not different element types, so selecting the element's tool in the ToolBox does not make any difference. The only way to get to the selected element for editing in this situation is to Bring Forward in the Display Order above the adjacent element, but this means that the Display Order will need to be changed again to edit the other element.

Thanks for posting,

David

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Gerald Hoffman — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:30:35 GMT

I am having this problem as well and I defineatly would call it a bug. As pointed out it did not work this way in AC15 back. I thought maybe is was just me. Has anyone reported this to Graphisoft yet?

Cheers,

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Gerald Hoffman — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:32:19 GMT

Sorry I did not do that on purpose. ArchiCAD-Talk seemed to be hanging up.

/Moderator: This post appeared five times. I deleted the other four instance/

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:14:22 GMT

Sometimes this happens to me, sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to find a trigger. There are a few other things that just happen in 16, like scroll zoom not working, selected items not highlighted, and other issues, some that fix themselves by changing to a section view then back to plan (so a rebuild in there somewhere) and others that require closing the file an re-opening.

Just used to little hicups after all these years, I suppose.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:21:40 GMT

When, or if I have to wait a long while this hotfix?

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Barry Kelly — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:16:02 GMT

I have heard there is a hotfix for 16 on the way in early February.
Let's hope this is part of it.
Barry.

Re: Accuracy election slab element in AC16

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:07:32 GMT

Hi Barry,
It is understandable because certainly many improvements that will be released in the hotfix. I hope and I can understand.
Apart from what is mentioned in this bug finding there's more that I think has been part of many discussions here like appearance and seemed to morph on a wedge cut that should not be cut, a slow performance 2D graphics into a mess after the removal of the label and the point a certain size. I use the NVIDIA GTX680 I've been using the final driver but is still going on like that.

This is because I had to chase a target completion of temporary work habits slightly delayed due to this problem.
Thank you.