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    <title>topic Re: Empty Door opening BUG (AC12/AC13) in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210530#M114216</link>
    <description>You're right, Nicholas.  The MVO option shows the side AND the in-line wall contours.&lt;BR /&gt;
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If the MVO is to show door/window, then the door/window contour setting must be off to show the wall end lines.&lt;BR /&gt;
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But, at least on Mac, if I switch MVO to show opening only, then actual windows show wall ends but empty openings still do not and I don't see a way of forcing them to show?&lt;BR /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Karl</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:45:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Karl Ottenstein</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-05-04T21:45:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Empty Door opening BUG (AC12/AC13)</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210527#M114213</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;Hi!&lt;BR /&gt;
My English isn't well so I'll try explain problem in pictures.&lt;BR /&gt;
1. Draw wall and door and window.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;IMG src="http://i.piccy.info/i5/07/83/1458307/1.png" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
2. In Documents/Set Model View choose 'Show openings only' both for windows and doors.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;IMG src="http://i.piccy.info/i5/18/83/1458318/2.png" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
As we can see all correct.&lt;BR /&gt;
3. Now choose door and replace it to emty door&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;IMG src="http://i.piccy.info/i5/23/83/1458323/3.png" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
4. Wall borders disappeared.&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;IMG src="http://i.piccy.info/i5/28/83/1458328/4.png" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
I thing it's a bug. Because doorway should have borders on the plan.&lt;BR /&gt;
With windows same situation.&lt;BR /&gt;
Checked in Archicad 12 and in Archicad 13.&lt;BR /&gt;
Sometimes lines disappear only after any property of Emty Door/window changes.&lt;/R&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 16:04:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210527#M114213</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-25T16:04:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Empty Door opening BUG (AC12/AC13)</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210528#M114214</link>
      <description>In the MVO dialog, you must check the boxes for "with contours".</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:38:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210528#M114214</guid>
      <dc:creator>Karl Ottenstein</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-05-04T14:38:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Empty Door opening BUG (AC12/AC13)</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210529#M114215</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Karl wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;In the MVO dialog, you must check the boxes for "with contours".&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Karl, correct me if I am wrong, I thought this feature was only intended to show the contours on the two sides of the &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;wall&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;, not the sides of an &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;opening&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;. The sides of an opening should have a contour defacto. Am I not correct?&lt;BR /&gt;
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In AC 14 this model view option is available in the door settings and even the dropdown icons show a contour line on the sides of the opening in all variations. Also tested the global MVO with the same results.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Vlad, perhaps there might be a display order issue at fault. Try selecting the door or wall and change the display order Edit&amp;gt;Display Order.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/16843iB4915F31F104C4A8/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="Wall Contour Lines on Door Opening.jpg" title="Wall Contour Lines on Door Opening.jpg" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 19:44:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210529#M114215</guid>
      <dc:creator>NCornia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-05-04T19:44:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Empty Door opening BUG (AC12/AC13)</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210530#M114216</link>
      <description>You're right, Nicholas.  The MVO option shows the side AND the in-line wall contours.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
If the MVO is to show door/window, then the door/window contour setting must be off to show the wall end lines.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
But, at least on Mac, if I switch MVO to show opening only, then actual windows show wall ends but empty openings still do not and I don't see a way of forcing them to show?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Karl</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:45:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Empty-Door-opening-BUG-AC12-AC13/m-p/210530#M114216</guid>
      <dc:creator>Karl Ottenstein</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-05-04T21:45:08Z</dc:date>
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