topic NESTED MODULES in Modeling

NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:19:09 GMT

i'm currently working in v9. i have a file which modules in a number of other files (PLNs) into this 'overall plan file'. my question is, is there a way to skip certain modules in one PLN and yet have another module in the same PLN appear?

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:24:29 GMT

7 views and no replies...

i guess that's a 'no'???

Re: NESTED MODULES

Link — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:00:43 GMT

Maybe you'd like to reword the question. It's not really clear.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:26:31 GMT

hehehe...sorry

ok...

for ease of drawing on my part, i have split the project into 2 files (it has 7 tenancies) -refer to attached pic-

the horizontal tenancies are (the ones with grids) are one file, and the vertical tenancies (the ones without grids, as i haven't shown their specific layers) are in another file.

both of these files have a module which shows toilets. (you can see them arranged next to each other in the partition walls between tenancies)...

i have linked these 2 files to each other, and have skipped the modules for each link, meaning i will not be seeing the toilet modules from each other's file. as you can see the toilet amenities are not shown in the vertical tenancies.

i have a third file which encompasses both files, used specifically for site plan, roof plan, an overall floor plan etc. i know i could have just done 2 files and have one of them have the site/overall floor plan/etc, but i realised it was easier this way.

the thing is, when i want to look at an overall floor plan (showing the interiors of all tenancies) i also want to see the toilet modules for each tenancy. the thing is, in the third file i have 'skipped nested modules' for both the vertical and horizontal tenancies because if i did, i would be doubling elements shown.

long question short, is there a way to select which modules (within a hotlinked PLN file) to be skipped?

i think i made that question even more complicated

Re: NESTED MODULES

__archiben — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:35:56 GMT

Gerard wrote:
long question short, is there a way to select which modules (within a hotlinked PLN file) to be skipped?

archicad's 'module' capabilities extend only to skipping all or no nested modules.

long answer short: no.

~/archiben

Re: NESTED MODULES

__archiben — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:39:57 GMT

Gerard wrote:
i think i made that question even more complicated

i think you are making the process more complicated than it has to be too:

why not just have the master file which modules in the two tenancy files (skipping nested modules) and the third toilet block file? or did i completely misunderstand your complications?!

~/archiben

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:40:32 GMT

damn

i'm hoping they have more options in v10 (do they???)

Re: NESTED MODULES

__archiben — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:41:43 GMT

Gerard wrote:
i'm hoping they have more options in v10 (do they???)

that'll be a big fat NO too!

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:48:01 GMT

a possible suggestion for the next version then...otherwise, i'd have to spend time trying to think of ways going around this problem...

Re: NESTED MODULES

__archiben — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:55:28 GMT

Gerard wrote:
otherwise, i'd have to spend time trying to think of ways going around this problem...

what about my suggestion above?

~/archiben

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:03:59 GMT

thanks for the suggestion,

i did think about adding the toilet module into the master document. i just thought doing that way meant that, if i did any changes to to the toilet modules in the model files, i would do the same to the master document. i was hoping of skipping that second amendment. but i guess that's the way i'm heading. thanks again!

Re: NESTED MODULES

__archiben — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:14:01 GMT

Gerard wrote:
... if i did any changes to to the toilet modules in the model files, i would do the same to the master document.

why would you need to? if you do it once in one file, updating the module handles it in the other files? in fact, why do you need a separate toilet file at all? why not attach it to one or the other files . . ?

maybe i really am misunderstanding you here?

~/archiben

Re: NESTED MODULES

Gerry Leonor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:23:48 GMT

no no no, i do understand...i meant that if say, i do change the position of a toilet module itself, i would only have to do it once, in the module file.

or maybe i'm just being lazy

Re: NESTED MODULES

Dennis Lee — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:06:39 GMT

what about my suggestion above?

Ben, your diagram is really helpful. I have a similar situation, and I'm not sure if it applies to my case as well.

I have a project with 3 separate buildings (5+5+4 unit 2 story townhouses). Of course, they will share a lot of common details. There is about 5 different unit types, but they are slightly different also, depending on where they are on the building (edge or middle).

It seems that because of these slight differences and limited number of repeating units, it might be better off for me to model each building w/o the use of "unit" modules.

Since there are three buildings however, I am thinking of doing each building as a separate PLN file, and bring them into a site PLN file, because the building orientations in the site plan are different from how I'd like to show each floor plan.

I'm not sure exactly however, where to do the "documentation" portion - text, dimensions, etc. Also, in which file should I do the detail call outs & details? Should I hotlink the buildings as modules or PLN files?