topic Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section. in Modeling

Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Wed, 24 May 2023 11:00:54 GMT

I see the separator lines in plan view but not in section.
When I select the wall in section I can see where the lines should be.
Why don't all the separator lines show up?

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

ratnabhirud — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:45:23 GMT

Hello Steve,

Have you checked option as per
Skin separator line option available in the Composite attribute dialog box, it must be checked to show skin separator line as per need.

I am not able to attach explanatory image.

Regards,

Ratna

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Anonymous — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:03:31 GMT

The option for Skin separator line (off/on/type etc) only shows up after you select one of the line options.

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:55:28 GMT

I think I have the settings right but I am not seeing all the lines.

Sh

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:40:33 GMT

Any chance, Steve, that when you are opening your section that you are opening a VIEW and not a viewpoint.... and that your view has different Model View Options - notably the one attached, where cut fills can be overridden and skin separator lines can be omitted?

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:43:55 GMT

ratnabhirud wrote:
Have you checked option as per
Skin separator line option available in the Composite attribute dialog box, it must be checked to show skin separator line as per need.

Good idea... but that setting is global - if unchecked, the separator line will never show up. So, this cannot be the issue for Steve, since things look correct in 2D for him.

Model View Options gives per-view control. (As an aside that doesn't apply here: pen settings can give a finer grain control by switching certain skins to thin white pens ... but the thin white line can look weird with most background fills.)

Will be interesting to see if Steve's issue is an MVO setting... (see last post/screenshot)...

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 02:19:01 GMT

I can not select Show Skin Separator Lines in MVO with out using overrides which I don't think will help anyway. The lines are showing up are at the center core and the outside. Why the other lines don't show up in section is what I can't figure out.

walls look fine in plan view

Just to see what would happen I changed the MVO to Override Cut Fills with Show Skin Separator Lines checked and all it does is hide the fills. All of the lines are still not showing up in my section view.

The lines that are missing are for where the 1/2" drywall is on the inside of the ICF and I also have a line at 1" outside the ICF to show for siding.

It will be faster to draw them in that figure it out.

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:02:18 GMT

Ah. The zoomed view helps. Any chance you have the Partial Structure Display filter set to "Without Finishes" for your section view?

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 03:38:22 GMT

I checked that too. I can't find any reason why the lines don't show up.

I give up. The detail will be so full of added fills anyway that it wont make any difference. It's just annoying.

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:22:53 GMT

Steve,
as you are using the same fill for different skins, in section the rule is : same fill=merge.
If you want to separate them in section just duplicate the original fill and use alternatively for example empty_fill/empty_fill1/empty_fill/empty_fill1 etc
In plan view the rule is not the same all skins show and never merge except if you set them accordingly.
Some like this subtle difference, some don't

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

David Maudlin — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:43:20 GMT

I think Til has the solution.

David

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:50:58 GMT

Til wrote:
Steve,
as you are using the same fill for different skins, in section the rule is : same fill=merge.
If you want to separate them in section just duplicate the original fill and use alternatively for example empty_fill/empty_fill1/empty_fill/empty_fill1 etc
In plan view the rule is not the same all skins show and never merge except if you set them accordingly.
Some like this subtle difference, some don't

I bet that's it! I will give it a try. Thanks!

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Steve Jepson — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:00:20 GMT

Yes. That was it.

Re: Can't see separator lines of composite walls in section.

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:21:56 GMT

hello everyone i´m new here and bit new to archicad also.

i tought i was having the same problem as Steve but my problem is a bit diferent.

i noticed that in sections i can´t change the separator line color. i wanted all black fills with white lines separating them and i can't do it.

i tried red lines, blue etc, it only changes in plans. even if you try the normal fills with red separation lines it won´t change in sections. it always apears a black sparator line.

can someone help me?

thank you

(P.S) - i got it!!! thank you