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Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:51:34 GMT

My problem is with the ensembles of the walls in the floor plan of the complex profiles, there is a solution to the Wall Priority Structure and Composite but I've tried, but no go. I drawing the concrete foundation, and I really would ask you to explain to me, or if there is some tutorial because this problem can not seem to solve. Please help me!

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Dave Seabury — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:29:06 GMT

Allen

Tough to tell what is happening with just a plan view however,
Check to make sure View>On Screen View Options> Clean Wall Beam
Intersections is toggled on.

It appears that you have a footing with a stem wall, make sure your
wall reference lines touch. Where is the reference line for the comp. wall
(outside edge of footing?), Try moving the reference line to the stem wall.

Lastly, the priority for the footing should be lower then the stem wall.

David

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:37:42 GMT

In any case, thanks but my problem is still not resolved I really have no idea what to do again, I'll put some pictures, so if somebody could explain to me gradually what to do.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:43:06 GMT

some more pictures

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:45:05 GMT

picture

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Dave Seabury — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:04:04 GMT

Allen

The only way to get the plan view to show correctly is to split your wall
in to 2 pieces and model them separately ie model the footing and then
model the wall on top of it, if you use the same fill for both, they will
appears as one in section

Hope that helps.

David

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:02:08 GMT

allen,
you have to set "Cut Plane height to Current Story" for the complex profile foundation Walls under the menu Document / Floor Plan Cut Plane Settings.

From the dimensions of the profile I guess your height is set to 110cm. Set it to 100cm!

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:03:24 GMT

When you set to 100cm:

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:47:59 GMT

Thanks Andro helped

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Bricklyne Clarence — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:31:53 GMT

Although your problem was resolved, I would add that another solution probably would have been to draw your wall section correctly as it would appear in sections and in detail drawings.

Walls with footings are usually drawn (and built) as separate elements with the stem and the footing shown as separate fill elements (see below) even if you're using the same fill type for both. Sort of like what Dave Seabury was suggesting but rather than actually modelling it as 2 separate construction elements, you only draw it as 2 separate fill elements (in the Complex profile manger) even though they work as one element on plan and are built as one wall with footing in 3D and section.

This way you would be able to set the priorities for the stem and the footing separately in the Complex profile manager and have it clean up correctly in your plan along with section and detail drawings.
It would also allow you to set separate properties for the footing in plan (like controlling dash-line segments to show footing as hidden line contours in plan for only just footing - although ArchiCAD allows you to do this automatically but with less control on the wall view properties).

I realize that this is probably not at the level of your architectural education at this point yet, but if you stick with Architecture, eventually you're going to have to learn how it's done.

See the images below for how a wall with footing is drawn or represented (and constructed) complete with keyway.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:24:16 GMT

I routinely model complex profile walls with the footing and foundation wall in the same complex profile. It works great. Heck, I even add the 2x plate at the top of the foundation. The footing comes out as a dashed line because it is below the cut plane.

I set the vertical stretch lines above the footing and below the plate, so when I stretch the wall, it does not affect the footing or plate.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:25:48 GMT

And the plan view...

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:28:49 GMT

And the section...

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:18:50 GMT

How did you get the footing section to display as dashed lines in plan view?
I have done it by making two elements and setting the footing to overhead projection but if it can be accomplished in one profile, one step, that would be much better.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:37:13 GMT

Here are my settings. Uncut lines are set to dashed (these are the footing lines).

Make sure your floor plan cut plane is set to cut through the wall itself.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:08:34 GMT

Thanks, so simple. I am new to Archicad and finding some of the simplest things to be a challenge until you find out where to look.

Re: Problem with wall complex profile,please help

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:13:03 GMT

No problem! I'm still learning...