topic Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available in Modeling

ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Katalin Takacs — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 13:40:00 GMT

We have released the Hotfix 4 (build 5005) for ArchiCAD 17 INT, AUS, USA, GER and SWE language versions. Further language versions will be released continuously.

The hotfix corrects numerous BIMx and Energy Evaluation problems, crashes and many other issues. You can find the detailed list of fixed bugs and the download links in the release notes:

ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Release Notes

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Rick Thompson — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:51:38 GMT

Well, this is not starting off well. Tried twice and had to restart computer to get out of it. As far as I can tell I am up to date with Maverick and everything else???

I am installing the java now, but never had to before, so maybe everyone on a Mac will need to?

I would go ahead and check so you don't get Finder stuck and have to re-boot. This is a first since 1996 for me.

http://www.graphisoft.com/downloads/java.html

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 18:12:03 GMT

Hey Rick,

I'm on Mavericks, too, and the update installed normally.

If you go to your System Preferences > Java and launch the special Java Control Panel... and click on the Update tab, what version of Java does it say you have installed?

Mine is reading Java 7 Update 45 (and 'check for updates automatically' is checked, which is how I ended up at update 45).

The Java page that GS gives in the error message you posted installs Java 7 Update 21, which is apparently what was originally packaged with 17. But, I'd update to the most current version for security reasons, at least since it's working for me. 😉

Cheers,
Karl

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Rick Thompson — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 18:25:00 GMT

Too late as I went straight to the GS Java download and updated, then all was fine. I must have not been up to date, but I typically run those when they pop up. I remember doing it not long ago, but maybe on a different computer:) Must be recent at any rate, so that's why I suggest going ahead and checking before launching the installer. If not, you might need to re-start to get the spinning wheel to quit.

Mine is however set to update auto... so? Maybe I was in a bad mood when it can up and said no... don't remember.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:09:26 GMT

Glad all's good now. That's all that matters. 🙂

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:39:44 GMT

Having difficulty in understanding what is needed to correct the error of a file that is not accessible.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Link — Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:51:38 GMT

"159404 DOCUMENT: Reviewer did notwork with newer Java applets."

Yay! Hopefully this means we get project reviewer back!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 00:16:16 GMT

LewBishop wrote:
Having difficulty in understanding what is needed to correct the error of a file that is not accessible.

Unexplained permissions error it seems, Lew. First try Disk Utility and Repair Permissions, then try the hotfix again. If that doesn't do it, the easiest (brute force) method of fixing the permissions is go to Applications > Graphisoft and right-click the ArchiCAD 17 folder and select Duplicate. Then rename the original ArchiCAD 17 folder to ArchiCAD 17-old, rename the new folder to be just ArchiCAD 17 and repeat the hotfix installation. (Creating a duplicate should force all items to have your default permissions.) Delete the '-old' folder if successful.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 00:22:46 GMT

Link wrote:
"159404 DOCUMENT: Reviewer did notwork with newer Java applets."

Yay! Hopefully this means we get project reviewer back!

Cheers,
Link.

Didn't launch for me. 😞

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Link — Tue, 10 Dec 2013 00:51:47 GMT

Karl wrote:
Didn't launch for me. 😞

Got so close this time, but still no cigar! What gives? Same deal in Chrome, where it is supposed to work according to tech support.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Dec 2013 22:38:27 GMT

Karl:
Thanks for the hard info on reestablishing all the permissions. I have finally gotten all the steps to work and the hot fix is done. There was a problem at the disc level that got corrupted some how (likely a fat finger going where shouldn't) so the directions to duplicate worked.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:01:53 GMT

Glad that worked, Lew. Good holidays to you!
Karl

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Marton Kiss — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:14:58 GMT

Link wrote:
Got so close this time, but still no cigar! What gives? Same deal in Chrome, where it is supposed to work according to tech support.

Link, we will check what we can to to make Reviewer work, but I have a bad feeling that the browser security improvements are always ahead us. Which is good in general, but not for our Reviewer. This browser based Java technology was a great way to create platform independent content, but the fact that it was a source of many security risks resulted strict steps agains this technology.
The majority of the browsers block local Java based content, also would require you to lower the security settings in the browser, which we cannot really recommend.

We are checking here the possibilities, what better alternatives we can provide.

Marton

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Link — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:10:29 GMT

Hi Marton

Thanks for your reply, it's great to know you're actively listening.

You know, having looked at it in a little more detail, it does looks like the writing may be on the wall for the Project Reviewer. The second dialog link takes you to http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/secman.html and it concurs that the security settings may be making this all too hard.

I suspect this may be an opportune time for BIMx to step up.

Looking forward to the future! Thanks again.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:03:05 GMT

I don't know if this has always been this way but when I trace reference any of my sections onto my plan, they are not in the correct location. Some are close, but still off. I hit the "reset to default position" button but nothing happens.

Elevations are ok.

I see in the hotfix bug list there was a trace reference bug fixed, but it referred to details.

Have sections always not aligned with plan view in trace?

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Piotr Dobrowolski — Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:44:52 GMT

Steven wrote:
I don't know if this has always been this way but when I trace reference any of my sections onto my plan, they are not in the correct location. Some are close, but still off. I hit the "reset to default position" button but nothing happens.

Elevations are ok.

I see in the hotfix bug list there was a trace reference bug fixed, but it referred to details.

Have sections always not aligned with plan view in trace?

On PC the elevations are not aligned either ;-( (I do not know since when but the last but one hotfix was affected)

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Marton Kiss — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:04:16 GMT

Piotr wrote:
On PC the elevations are not aligned either ;-( (I do not know since when but the last but one hotfix was affected)

Piotr,

first of all thanks for your help for providing us with a test file. What is a known issue is that even though two sections/elevation are facing the same direction, are parallel and with the same length, their content won't align as trace by default.
For sections, elevation their content is positioned by their bounding box, which cannot handle well the special situation as above. Of course manually they can be position. To provide an automatic way to align these is on our feature request list.

Steven,

with tracing sections/elevation to plan the situation is different. Those should align well. A few questions to get closer:
- does this happen with any sections/elevations?
- are the affected ones rebuild from model or drawings?
- are multiple projects affected?

Marton

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Fra — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:48:26 GMT

When will the hotfix for version ITA be available?

Francesco

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Marton Kiss — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:28:08 GMT

Fra wrote:
When will the hotfix for version ITA be available?

Francesco

Francesco and All,

at the moment the release of further language versions has been hold as we identified a crash that we would address for everyone.

The crash comes if you change an element's renovation status on section/elevation views. We haven't recalled the versions that are out there as a high number of other issues are fixed in that.

To avoid the crash make sure you change the renovation status on floor plan view or in 3D, so not in S/E.

In January we will start to release a new package for all language versions, expect the ITA version around February.

Apologies for this delay,
Marton

Re: ArchiCAD 17 Hotfix 4 (build 5005) Is Available

Fra — Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:43:52 GMT

Thank you for info

Francesco