topic Angled beam intersection (bisector) in Modeling

Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:38:04 GMT

Hi there,
I always have the same issue with the beams on the roof. If I have the same cross section of the beam let's say 30x50 cm concrete beams and one in the end it's angled, the intersection must be on the bisect of the angle.
It's almost impossible to have it like this. The only solution it's to have a lot of SEO but it's waste of time.

Please let me know if you know any solutions for this.

Thank you!

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:52:23 GMT

Catalin,

I make my guard rails out of beams and columns, so I have this problem all the time on stairs.

When you angle a beam, it uses the perpendicular cross section as the official height of the beam. That is why it does not line up properly because cross section makes the beam thicker when it is plumb cut.

The way I fix it is to make the beam thinner.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:17:40 GMT

It still won't be right, Jeff.

Roof objects will join correctly, if you don't mind using a roof in place of a beam.

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

MrC — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:24:07 GMT

ROOF SET TO ZERO THICKNESS AND AT THE APPROPRIATE BISECTION ANGLE AS OPERATOR IN SEO'S

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

MrC — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:27:49 GMT

RESULT

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:23:03 GMT

jballar wrote:
The way I fix it is to make the beam thinner.
Jeff

Indeed, this is one solution. But in real life you can't make a beam thinner just because Archicad doesn't intersect well the beams.

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:25:49 GMT

MrC wrote:
ROOF SET TO ZERO THICKNESS AND AT THE APPROPRIATE BISECTION ANGLE AS OPERATOR IN SEO'S

I think this is the only solution, but as you know in design phase you need to change the angle or else ten times per hour and to make one SEO let's say per day but it's time consuming.

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Dwight — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:11:28 GMT

You could create the entire assembly using a complex profile and laying it down using a wall ACROSS the span direction.

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:43:24 GMT

There is another relatively simple and fast method.
See the attached image.
SEO is performed
The inclined Beam is the Target, the horizontal Beam is the operator.
Depending on the situation you perform a Subscription with upward/downward extrusion SEO.

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

MrC — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:16:45 GMT

ah....of coarse. Great solution......now why didn't I think of that! I always start my day at this forum,more hours saved!
Thanks

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:30:53 GMT

Thank you all! Still SEO but great and faster solutions!

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

NCornia — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:56:26 GMT

Thank you all for posting this. I will bring it to our product team's attention.

Best regards

Re: Angled beam intersection (bisector)

Anonymous — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:30:13 GMT

Thank you Nicholas. In the library on the roof construction elements the purlin and rafter has option to make the ends angled. If you can make it to the beam will be awesome.