topic Re: empty opening in custom profile wall in Modeling

empty opening in custom profile wall

jkershaw — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:28:54 GMT

hi all -

We have created a custom profile wall that consists of 7/8" corrugated metal cladding. This wall is a skin to a regular AC wall.

We want to create an empty opening in this wall that corresponds with the steel bucket window in the regular wall. Everything looks good in 3D, but in plan, the empty opening is not "masking" the full thickness of the custom profile wall.

As you can see from the screenshots, the window DOES mask a small portion of the thickness.

Any suggestions??

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

jkershaw — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 17:49:55 GMT

here is the plan view

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

Bruce — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 01:59:36 GMT

Presumably your opening reference lines are set to cover the whole depth of the corrugate?

Also, play around with the symbolic vs projected vs outline display of both the wall and the window - there may be a combination that does what you want

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

jkershaw — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 15:37:03 GMT

Thanks, Bruce -

Yes - the opening reference covers the entire profile. This was our first guess.

We also played around with the symbolic/projected settings, and we just cannot get it to render properly in 2D.

The window is above the cut plane, so we do not expect projected to work. The fact that the symbolic setting only masks a portion of the custom profile wall leads me to think something is glitchy and not working properly.

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

Bruce — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:50:51 GMT

Try changing the empty opening to an empty window opening (yes, there is a difference). The Empty Window Openings (in this case Rectangular Window Opening) gives more options with casing, reveals etc.

Also, given the window is above your cut plane, try changing the cut plane height to see if this has an impact.

It's not glitchy...it's just the idiosyncratic behaviour of complex profiles vs 2D display vs cut plane heights.

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

sinceV6 — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:40:31 GMT

Hi.
I have to ask... Have you tried "Send backward" for the complex profile wall? I'm assuming those are separate walls and the steel bucket window sill has a cover fill...

Best regards.

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

jkershaw — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 15:44:44 GMT

good grief... "send to back" took care of the issue. Rookie mistake. I must be getting old...

thank you!

Re: empty opening in custom profile wall

sinceV6 — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:10:04 GMT

Good.
That's the problem with the symbolic floor plan type of view in AC, because you might have walls set to "projected with overhead" but their interaction with other elements will still be a symbolic representation. IMHO I think this should change ASAP.
Best regards.