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    <title>topic Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221676#M119936</link>
    <description>I'll try the 'non-associative' type.&lt;BR /&gt;
thanks.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:50:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rob2218</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-02-26T21:50:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221673#M119933</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;help&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 16:00:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rob2218</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-23T16:00:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221674#M119934</link>
      <description>Because it is associative it is trying to snap to the nodes between landings and flights as well as end points? What are you trying to do? You have double up nodes... Having your reference line shift between the nosing and rear of tread will mess up your railing heights. The only time you want that transition is at the bottom of flights where the tool will automatically adjust to continue along your landing or slab most of the time.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:29:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221674#M119934</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lingwisyer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-24T02:29:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221675#M119935</link>
      <description>Yes try to not use associated, like turn it off. Let us know if that helps.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2020 23:59:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221675#M119935</guid>
      <dc:creator>Carstenem</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-24T23:59:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221676#M119936</link>
      <description>I'll try the 'non-associative' type.&lt;BR /&gt;
thanks.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:50:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221676#M119936</guid>
      <dc:creator>rob2218</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-26T21:50:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221677#M119937</link>
      <description>I do not remember this happening in 22, but my static railings in 23 keep becoming associative when I try to use any part of a stair as a reference point...&lt;BR /&gt;
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Ling.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 03:17:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221677#M119937</guid>
      <dc:creator>Lingwisyer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-23T03:17:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221678#M119938</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Lingwisyer wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
I do not remember this happening in 22, but my static railings in 23 keep becoming associative when I try to use any part of a stair as a reference point...&lt;BR /&gt;
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Ling.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
Yep, happens in 22 as well.&lt;BR /&gt;
If you drag to a node on the stair and you see the baseline of the stair highlight, it will associate to that node.&lt;BR /&gt;
Drag to just the baseline or boundary edge and it won't.&lt;BR /&gt;
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However if you see the baseline highlight, wait just a second until you get the snap point guide (blue circle) and then press TAB once.&lt;BR /&gt;
It will un-highlight the stair and will not associate to it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;BR /&gt;
Barry.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 05:27:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221678#M119938</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-23T05:27:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221679#M119939</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Barry wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Lingwisyer wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
I do not remember this happening in 22, but my static railings in 23 keep becoming associative when I try to use any part of a stair as a reference point...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Ling.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
Yep, happens in 22 as well.&lt;BR /&gt;
If you drag to a node on the stair and you see the baseline of the stair highlight, it will associate to that node.&lt;BR /&gt;
Drag to just the baseline or boundary edge and it won't.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
However if you see the baseline highlight, wait just a second until you get the snap point guide (blue circle) and then press TAB once.&lt;BR /&gt;
It will un-highlight the stair and will not associate to it.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Barry.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
I have this same problem, placing stairs with magic wand makes them associate to the top of the stair nose, but placing manually snaps to the stair baseline and associates to the bottom, which messes up the heights. I tried your trick with pressing tab but it just cycles through the values of the tracker box (distance, angle, etc). Even if the stair is set to be static it makes it associative when I try to put a node on this specific point. In my screenshots I want the point at the red circle, but Archicad forces it to the blue, but at the top of the stair it forces it to the opposite point, which makes the railing slope diagonally relative to the stair.&lt;BR /&gt;





Any ideas?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2020 09:02:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221679#M119939</guid>
      <dc:creator>PVBergkrantz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-10-05T09:02:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221680#M119940</link>
      <description>Any updates on this? As it stands the railing tool is completely useless, so many options but no way to use them in a good way to achieve what you want. Stairs can't overlap, but to get railings to work apparently you need one continuous across multiple stories, but then the 2d gets completely messed up... This is a huge flaw in archicad right now and seemingly no changes planned?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:08:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221680#M119940</guid>
      <dc:creator>PVBergkrantz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-27T11:08:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221681#M119941</link>
      <description>there are a few youtube videos from this fellow.&lt;BR /&gt;
he knows his stair stuff.&lt;BR /&gt;
check his name out.&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221681#M119941</guid>
      <dc:creator>rob2218</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-27T15:04:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 22 - Railings!...YIKES</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221682#M119942</link>
      <description>Thanks for the suggestion, some good videos there but unfortunately nothing that I could find that helps this situation.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:15:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-22-Railings-YIKES/m-p/221682#M119942</guid>
      <dc:creator>PVBergkrantz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-28T13:15:48Z</dc:date>
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