topic Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement in Modeling

ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Richard Morrison — Wed, 15 May 2019 01:46:54 GMT

I'm surprised this hasn't shown up here yet. https://www.graphisoft.com/info/news/press_releases/archicad-23-bim-in-an-instant.html

ARCHICAD 23 announced

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 15 May 2019 02:39:39 GMT

ARCHICAD 23 has been announced.

What’s new in ARCHICAD 23:
- Performance improvements
- Re-engineered Column and Beam tools (Beams have cover fills!!! )
- New Opening tool
- Renewed Solibri connection
- Enhanced dRofus connection
- Rhino-Grasshopper-ARCHICAD live connection improvements
and more

Read the full announcement and details here:

https://www.graphisoft.com/info/news/press_releases/archicad-23-bim-in-an-instant.html

The ARCHICAD 23 World Premiere will be streamed live on June 4, 2019. You can register for the live stream here:

https://www.graphisoft.com/archicad/

Edit: The ARCHICAD 23 premiere video can be watched at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=v9JIzUCK_OA

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 15 May 2019 02:40:41 GMT

Richard,

You beat me to it by a bit

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

rm — Thu, 16 May 2019 18:07:35 GMT

Not much here for smaller firms. The bulk of these "Major" upgrades are for larger architecture firms. Hopefully they have not announced everything added into AC 23 and these are just the major bullet points aimed at appeasing larger practices! It's clear that we should only expect small incremental improvements since GS has fully adopted a yearly release cycle. That said, based solely on the announced new features, buying the yearly maintenance contract seems like a pretty poor value at this point, especially for small to medium sized firms who cannot take advantage of volume pricing.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Steve Jepson — Thu, 16 May 2019 23:05:03 GMT

rm wrote:
Not much here for smaller firms. The bulk of these "Major" upgrades are for larger architecture firms. Hopefully they have not announced everything added into AC 23 and these are just the major bullet points aimed at appeasing larger practices! It's clear that we should only expect small incremental improvements since GS has fully adopted a yearly release cycle. That said, based solely on the announced new features, buying the yearly maintenance contract seems like a pretty poor value at this point, especially for small to medium sized firms who cannot take advantage of volume pricing.

But "ARCHICAD 23 vastly improves perceived performance..." isn't that enough?

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

rm — Fri, 17 May 2019 00:39:33 GMT

Steve wrote:
But "ARCHICAD 23 vastly improves perceived performance..." isn't that enough?

Exactly my point!

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Geof Gainer — Fri, 17 May 2019 04:42:36 GMT

There were a few videos up on youtube yesterday. Can't find them now--taken down? They were the 'Classics modeled in ArchiCad' format with Wright's Johnson Admin Building, Geisel Library in San Diego, and another---illustrating how the AC23 beam and column tools had taken on the advents of AC22's profile editor.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Barry Kelly — Fri, 17 May 2019 05:14:42 GMT

Geof wrote:
There were a few videos up on youtube yesterday.

These ones?

https://www.graphisoft.com/archicad/

Barry.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Anonymous — Fri, 17 May 2019 07:58:12 GMT

Will AC23 have Radeon ProRender (which has been integrated in Cinema4D since R19)?
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-prorender

Seen the weak support of 3rd party render engines, that would be a very welcome nice-to-have!

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Barry Kelly — Fri, 17 May 2019 08:25:29 GMT

I don't know specifically if Cinerender in Archicad includes the Radeon ProRender, but I can say it uses the the R20 Cinerender engine.
I am not sure if all of the features of that engine are utilised in Archicad though.

I can also say that the surface catalogue has been renewed as the surface settings have a couple of new options (real reflections and parallax offset apparently).
The surfaces can look much better now from images I have seen.

Barry.

Re: ARCHICAD 23 announced

Anonymous — Fri, 17 May 2019 12:37:32 GMT

LaszloNagy wrote:
ARCHICAD 23 has been announced.

What’s new in ARCHICAD 23:

- Re-engineered Column and Beam tools (Beams have cover fills!!! )

Whaaaat no way, beams have cover fills! Holy cow

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 18 May 2019 02:56:22 GMT

mattiasdh wrote:
Will AC23 have Radeon ProRender (which has been integrated in Cinema4D since R19)?
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-prorender

Seen the weak support of 3rd party render engines, that would be a very welcome nice-to-have!

Twinmotion is now free till November 2019, it has a free ARCHICAD Connection using which you can quickly and easily transfer your model to Twinmotion, and it is a GPU-based visualization software. You should check it out.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Anonymous — Mon, 20 May 2019 21:28:55 GMT

I downloaded it and it’s amazing.
So much quicker to render not to mention the animation (although a little cheesy) but the ease of use and real-time adjustments are a real joy. If you are not downloading this and taking advantage you are missing out.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Anonymous — Mon, 20 May 2019 23:27:26 GMT

Michael wrote:
I downloaded it and it’s amazing.
So much quicker to render not to mention the animation (although a little cheesy) but the ease of use and real-time adjustments are a real joy. If you are not downloading this and taking advantage you are missing out.

I have Archicad Plus My Archicad and do not see where to download 23. Is it hidden somewhere? I am eligible for 23 and should have been notified by Graphisoft but have seen nothing. Please share the link.

Thanks,

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Anonymous — Mon, 20 May 2019 23:33:24 GMT

He's referring to Twinmotion - not AC23, which has not yet been released. Probably wait for another month or two.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Anonymous — Tue, 21 May 2019 04:46:04 GMT

https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=63336&hilit=python
No python updates?

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 21 May 2019 15:46:19 GMT

The experimental Python development is independent of the ARCHICAD release cycle, so you should expect Python-related announcements to be made when there are some developments on that front.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

agroni — Tue, 21 May 2019 20:17:18 GMT

rm wrote:
Not much here for smaller firms. The bulk of these "Major" upgrades are for larger architecture firms. Hopefully they have not announced everything added into AC 23 and these are just the major bullet points aimed at appeasing larger practices! It's clear that we should only expect small incremental improvements since GS has fully adopted a yearly release cycle. That said, based solely on the announced new features, buying the yearly maintenance contract seems like a pretty poor value at this point, especially for small to medium sized firms who cannot take advantage of volume pricing.

I must agree with rm on this case.
Ah the performance improvements. In each version there is the same statement. It will be probably well presented how fast it is at the event, but our real projects are a different case.
I am really happy that AC23 has green lights for the launch and has improvements. But to be honest with you I must weigh the improvements vs. time spent in upgrading our office standard in our office for the new stuff. Especially the template is not just a copy paste thing, but a laborious task. So currently I am not really "on fire" wanting to upgrade from 22 to 23.
BTW there is nothing written about the certification of IFC4?!?!?

I am waiting to hear the first results from the users about the improvements.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 22 May 2019 01:22:23 GMT

It feels faster on my current projects.

Re: ArchiCAD 23 Announcement

PB — Wed, 22 May 2019 11:20:27 GMT

rm wrote:
Not much here for smaller firms. The bulk of these "Major" upgrades are for larger architecture firms. Hopefully they have not announced everything added into AC 23 and these are just the major bullet points aimed at appeasing larger practices! It's clear that we should only expect small incremental improvements since GS has fully adopted a yearly release cycle. That said, based solely on the announced new features, buying the yearly maintenance contract seems like a pretty poor value at this point, especially for small to medium sized firms who cannot take advantage of volume pricing.

Definitely a goal of being at the forefront of digital information interoperability. Whilst seemingly at the expense of modelling improvements for the smaller practices & sole practitioners, it is a wise move by Graphisoft: ArchiCAD must be as useful to as many people - directly & indirectly - as possible in order to hold its own against the behemoths of Revit & Bentley.

Whilst there is perhaps little to enthuse the smaller users amongst us, I would like to point out the excellent support from Graphisoft (UK) via the UAS subscription: A very beneficial service when needed, before taking into account the annual upgrade in AC.