topic Re: Offscreen dialog boxes in Modeling

Offscreen dialog boxes

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 09:02:54 GMT

Halo guys, i'm having some problem with missing dialog boxes due to external monitor while working in archicad.

Some dialog boxes were set to be opened on the external monitor, and when i only use my main display (laptop) those dialog boxes seems to be still on the external monitor (offscreen) so i can't do anything except pressing escape to cancel whatever i was about to do.

Usually i just plug the monitor back in, but i'm currently out right now and i don't have any access to external monitor at the moment, any suggestion?

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

vistasp — Sun, 29 Jul 2018 14:31:00 GMT

Apply one of the standard (built-in) work environments. That should bring all the palettes back on your single screen.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:56:43 GMT

Thanks, but what i meant is not the palette, but the dialog boxes, for example, i can try to open the properties manager window, but it won't show on my main display.

Any idea?

-John

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

felcunha — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:10:17 GMT

Try to change the resolution of your desktop...

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Lingwisyer — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:29:19 GMT

When you say "main display (laptop)" do you mean when you take your laptop elsewhere, or when for what ever reason you just decide to not have your second display on when it is still plugged in? When you go into your computers resolution settings, is it still set to extend onto a secondary display?

Ling.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:11:16 GMT

John wrote:
Thanks, but what i meant is not the palette, but the dialog boxes, for example, i can try to open the properties manager window, but it won't show on my main display.

Vistasp's response is the correct one:

Apply one of the standard workspace schemes (not the entire work environment) from the Work Environment dialog. Everything should restore onto a single monitor. But, SAVE (with a name) your workspace scheme before doing that so that you have your 2 monitor scheme saved to use when you use 2 monitors the next time.

The Work Environment saves the location and size of EVERY window / dialog / etc. It is not just palettes. After you are set up again - using a separate workspace scheme for each monitor configuration is the only way to quickly switch between one, two or more monitors and different monitor sizes and have things set up the way you prefer.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Barry Kelly — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:10:23 GMT

Karl wrote:

John wrote:
Thanks, but what i meant is not the palette, but the dialog boxes, for example, i can try to open the properties manager window, but it won't show on my main display.
Vistasp's response is the correct one:

I am not so sure.
I dragged my object settings dialogue and my layer settings dialogue to my second monitor.
Then I re-applied my original WE but they didn't move back.
Palettes and toolboxes reset but not dialogues.

Barry.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 18:34:21 GMT

Must be one of those things that happens on Mac vs Windows?

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:33:31 GMT

Thank you guys for all of your kind replies.
Sorry for my very late reply regarding your solutions.

Karl wrote:
Must be one of those things that happens on Mac vs Windows?

Maybe, but I don't know for sure, because i haven't got the chance to try it on a Mac because i'm using windows version only.

Barry wrote:
Karl wrote:

John wrote:
Thanks, but what i meant is not the palette, but the dialog boxes, for example, i can try to open the properties manager window, but it won't show on my main display.
Vistasp's response is the correct one:

I am not so sure.
I dragged my object settings dialogue and my layer settings dialogue to my second monitor.
Then I re-applied my original WE but they didn't move back.
Palettes and toolboxes reset but not dialogues.

Barry.

Exactly..

Lingwisyer wrote:
When you say "main display (laptop)" do you mean when you take your laptop elsewhere, or when for what ever reason you just decide to not have your second display on when it is still plugged in? When you go into your computers resolution settings, is it still set to extend onto a secondary display?

Ling.

What i mean is after i disconnect my external monitor HDMI connection, then go outside to do some work on site, with my external monitor setting is set to "pc screen only", the dialog boxes won't show up

felcunha wrote:
Try to change the resolution of your desktop...

i've tried this before, but it didn't seem to do anything.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Feb 2019 13:08:29 GMT

We are having the same problem. Anyone some new ideas...?

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

MrC — Fri, 15 Feb 2019 01:50:03 GMT

had same problem a while ago......i think on a mac it your display settings.....?

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:11:34 GMT

this happens to me ALL THE TIME !!
using windows,
If i close my laptop, THEN unlplug my external displays, AC won't reset the dialog box locations to the single laptop screen when I open later. This is EXTREMELY frustrating.

applying a standard scheme does nothing,

basically for now, make sure you unplug your monitors first, before closing a file

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

runxel — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 16:15:56 GMT

This is a serious issue.

I'm currently without external monitor, and every palette opens there. Thanks for nothing, Archicad!
Applying another enivironment does not help.

Please do some sanity checks here, before opening palettes, GS!

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

runxel — Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:43:43 GMT

Well, I think I found a workaround:
It utilizes the fact you can export the workspace and the resulting file being a XML.
You'll have to edit the "Rect" values inside the "SizeableDockData" node.
Read more about it here.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Hmooslechner — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 04:59:27 GMT

The only solution i found was to draw all the later missing dialogboxes on the second monitor (bigger desktop-screen) back to the upper left in Archicad, before switching off the second monitor, before returning to a singlescreen-configuration. Expecially the Pet-Pals ar a mess..

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

runxel — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:13:09 GMT

Hmooslechner wrote:
The only solution i found was to draw all the later missing dialogboxes on the second monitor (bigger desktop-screen) back to the upper left in Archicad, before switching off the second monitor, before returning to a singlescreen-configuration. Expecially the Pet-Pals ar a mess..

Servus Heimo,
well, the other solution is to edit the workspace scheme XML, as I linked above.
It's also the only solution btw that's viable when there is no other monitor around – a difficulty I faced.

Also it helps to keep two seperate workspace schemes: one, when connected to another display, and one when on a single monitor.

Re: Offscreen dialog boxes

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:08:14 GMT

Hi All,

Thank you for sharing the issue and I am truly sorry about the experience!

This is a known problem to us. It seems like this is partly an ARCHICAD issue, as well as a Windows issue, as I haven't come across similar reports from macOS users. If you have this issue on macOS, please let me know! I haven't got a chance to test this yet.

I must say, this experience is a very painful one for me as well. Especially during these days, when working from home is a must and I use Remote Desktop every day, it is not easy when everything is set up perfectly on that 4K screen now being downscaled and messed up to my FullHD laptop screen!

This issue can be fixed by having different Work Environment setups. We have recorded a wish in our system already. Unfortunately, this is not something that is easy to change, due to the nature of ARCHICAD's user interface and how Windows behaves. I hope that we will find a solution for this soon, as I can see how annoying it can be when you have a deadline to meet and cannot find where certain palette is hiding!

Thank you very much for raising the issue! I am truly sorry for the inconvenience that this one is causing!

Have a great day, and enjoy the rest of Easter Monday for those who are celebrating it!

Best regards,
Minh