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    <title>topic ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234299#M125331</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;After updating to 4011 version, I've noticed this very annoying bug.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Very often when trying to offset one edge or all edges, I've got a wrong reference point and therefore if I click to end point or edge, I will get wrong result. Sometimes reference point appearing on nearby edge, sometimes on random nearby location.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This can also happen when moving a node (will attach screenshot in next post), inserting new node and curving edge.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Here is a video, I've captured from my screen. In this 2 minutes I've reproduced this bug 5 times (first on 0:24):&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;LINK_TEXT text=&amp;quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UA ... e=youtu.be&amp;quot;&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;lt;/LINK_TEXT&amp;gt;&amp;lt;e&amp;gt;"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UA ... e=youtu.be"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Bug exists in 3D too.&lt;/R&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68785iD489930457BA1A9C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="Reference point.png" title="Reference point.png" /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:19:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-11-13T09:19:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234299#M125331</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;After updating to 4011 version, I've noticed this very annoying bug.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Very often when trying to offset one edge or all edges, I've got a wrong reference point and therefore if I click to end point or edge, I will get wrong result. Sometimes reference point appearing on nearby edge, sometimes on random nearby location.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This can also happen when moving a node (will attach screenshot in next post), inserting new node and curving edge.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Here is a video, I've captured from my screen. In this 2 minutes I've reproduced this bug 5 times (first on 0:24):&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;LINK_TEXT text=&amp;quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UA ... e=youtu.be&amp;quot;&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;lt;/LINK_TEXT&amp;gt;&amp;lt;e&amp;gt;"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UA ... e=youtu.be"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pE_4UAOuSw&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Bug exists in 3D too.&lt;/R&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68785iD489930457BA1A9C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="Reference point.png" title="Reference point.png" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:19:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234299#M125331</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-13T09:19:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234300#M125332</link>
      <description>When moving a node:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68540iD4C7879E9DCF617A/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="Reference point 2.png" title="Reference point 2.png" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234300#M125332</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-13T09:20:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234301#M125333</link>
      <description>You're not alone &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_smile.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=50731" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/vie ... hp?t=50731"&gt;http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=50731&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:44:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234301#M125333</guid>
      <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-13T09:44:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234302#M125334</link>
      <description>This offset feedback issue has been reported along with other items in that thread that Erwin mentions. I have made it clear that these items need to be attended to as quickly as possible. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Best regards,</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:03:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234302#M125334</guid>
      <dc:creator>NCornia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-13T10:03:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234303#M125335</link>
      <description>Thanks for answers. Hope this will be fixed in ArchiCAD &lt;B&gt;19&lt;/B&gt;. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_smile.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:35:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234303#M125335</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-13T11:35:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234304#M125336</link>
      <description>Any feedback on a timeline for this fix? My productivity has taken a beating because of this bug.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:24:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234304#M125336</guid>
      <dc:creator>Brad Elliott</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-18T17:24:05Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234305#M125337</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Brad wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Any feedback on a timeline for this fix? My productivity has taken a beating because of this bug.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Brad,&lt;BR /&gt;
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I do not have a definite ETA, but it is a top level task for the developers and the plan is to release an Update specifically for this issue as soon as possible.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Best regards,</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234305#M125337</guid>
      <dc:creator>NCornia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-18T19:34:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234306#M125338</link>
      <description>Hi All, &lt;BR /&gt;
Thank you for reporting this issue, we have been aware of it and the fix is under development.&lt;BR /&gt;
The topmost entry in this Helpcenter article &lt;A href="http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/?p=43114" target="_blank"&gt;http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/?p=43114&lt;/A&gt; describes the node offsetting and dimension placing problem. &lt;BR /&gt;
Please note, the issue is planned to be fixed very urgently in a fast fix!!!&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks, k</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:50:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234306#M125338</guid>
      <dc:creator>Katalin Borszeki</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-20T13:50:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234307#M125339</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Brad wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Any feedback on a timeline for this fix? My productivity has taken a beating because of this bug.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Same for me. Very often I have to repeat my actions two or three times to get correct result. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_neutral.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;KatalinBorszeki wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Hi All, &lt;BR /&gt;
Thank you for reporting this issue, we have been aware of it and the fix is under development.&lt;BR /&gt;
The topmost entry in this Helpcenter article &lt;A href="http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/?p=43114" target="_blank"&gt;http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/?p=43114&lt;/A&gt; describes the node offsetting and dimension placing problem. &lt;BR /&gt;
Please note, the issue is planned to be fixed very urgently in a fast fix!!!&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks, k&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Hi, Katalin, thank you for good news. ^_^</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 08:13:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234307#M125339</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-23T08:13:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234308#M125340</link>
      <description>And also sometimes Stretch command missing when clicking on wall reference line endpoint. I hope this will be fixed with next update too.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:17:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234308#M125340</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-23T09:17:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234309#M125341</link>
      <description>Not just walls, I have that happening to lines and polylines too &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_smile.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;, think I reported the walls in the other thread.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:03:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234309#M125341</guid>
      <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-23T13:03:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234310#M125342</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Erwin wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Not just walls, I have that happening to lines and polylines too &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_smile.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;, think I reported the walls in the other thread.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

This bug is not restricted to one element type, it is to do with the cursor snap, turn the cursor snap range down to one pixel and you won't get it anymore, try it. I think it's the same bug that's causing dimensions to be added incorrectly, as these don't happen anymore either.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This is workaround though and certainly not a fix as having a cursor snap of 1 pixel is horrid!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:06:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234310#M125342</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-23T15:06:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234311#M125343</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Steve wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;This bug is not restricted to one element type, it is to do with the cursor snap, turn the cursor snap range down to one pixel and you won't get it anymore, try it. I think it's the same bug that's causing dimensions to be added incorrectly, as these don't happen anymore either.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This is workaround though and certainly not a fix as having a cursor snap of 1 pixel is horrid!&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I tried only 7-8 times and could reproduce this bug with 1 px cursor snap range too. Maybe it is more difficult but not impossible to reproduce it.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:56:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234311#M125343</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-24T11:56:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234312#M125344</link>
      <description>Seems like the fix is on the way &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_smile.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2015 15:34:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234312#M125344</guid>
      <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-24T15:34:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234313#M125345</link>
      <description>See this post about the fix, released today: &lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=51026" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=51026" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=51026" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Best regards,&lt;/S&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 19:39:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234313#M125345</guid>
      <dc:creator>NCornia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-25T19:39:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234314#M125346</link>
      <description>Thanks for the bug fix.. but it did not fix the bug for me... Still offsetting when trying to snap to element..&lt;BR /&gt;
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AND... I can no long work in the 3d window.. I'm guessing there is some memory leak as the screen will go black (or mostly black) and then exit out to the bug reporter... &lt;BR /&gt;
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Spent all day Friday fighting this and now it's happening again this morning.  This time El Capitan complained that I was OUT OF APPLICATION MEMORY.  Ultimately had to FORCE QUIT.  After restart, ArchiCAD crashed when trying to change camera views in the 3d window.&lt;BR /&gt;
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When's 4014 coming out?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:28:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234314#M125346</guid>
      <dc:creator>vfrontiers</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-07T17:28:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 19 wrong reference point</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234315#M125347</link>
      <description>Hi Duane,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
So far you are the only person to report such results. As you are within my direct support region I have sent you an email for more detail about the issue. If others have a similar experience to Duane's please post about it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Best regards,</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:45:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-19-wrong-reference-point/m-p/234315#M125347</guid>
      <dc:creator>NCornia</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-12-07T22:45:53Z</dc:date>
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