topic Re: Create independent details in Modeling

Create independent details

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:19:21 GMT

In an ongoing project, I have created 10 Independent Details. When I start creating the 11th detail, the program refuses to SAVE the contents of this particular Detail.(Everything I did in lines disappeared after I shut down and open the main file) Only the dimension info would show. I checked all layers are on.

I tried making changes to all files previous to the new 11th file, it would
save normally.
I also tried creating the 12th detail with lines, circles, fills etc. After SAVE, shutdown and reopen, only the circles are saved.

I tried opening another project file, and it works normally.

Has anybody experience this glitch?

Re: Create independent details

TomWaltz — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:31:23 GMT

Wow, that's a new one.... and a bad one!!

What build of Archicad are you using? If you click "About Archicad" in your Navigator it will tell you. (Under Help > About in the Navigator, set to Projetc Map)

Re: Create independent details

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:44:32 GMT

I am using 2045 USA full .

Re: Create independent details

TomWaltz — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:50:52 GMT

I'm not sure if it's related, but the next update to build 2172 is availble.

Re: Create independent details

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:09:37 GMT

Benjamin,

One of my clients experienced the exact same behavior. So, I feel your pain. All of her work on an independent detail was lost - and only the dimensions remained. I reported this a couple of days ago and am waiting to hear what GS has come up with.

I was able to get her file to work again for me using the fix-corruption-via-PLA method. Oddly, the same method did not work for her!

Try this:
Save your project as a PLA. Close AC. Start AC and open the PLA, let it read the library parts from the PLA itself. Save as PLN and exit AC. Start AC again, open the 'new' PLN and in Lib Mgr point back to the original libraries. Draw in the detail window, save, re-open and see if the problem is gone. (I don't know if all of the extra close/open AC steps are necessary, but that seems to be the only difference between what worked for me and didn't work for her.)

Karl

Re: Create independent details

Thomas Holm — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:01:12 GMT

Karl wrote:
(I don't know if all of the extra close/open AC steps are necessary, but that seems to be the only difference between what worked for me and didn't work for her.)

Sounds reasonable. Quitting the program clears all the caches. Not quitting may not clear enough bad data.

Re: Create independent details

Seiss Wagner — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:05:52 GMT

Sounds scary to me, like everyone, I have a lot of independent details in my drawing sets. I find it one of the most useful tools in the ArchiCAD pallette.

Benjamin are you a MAC or DOS user?

Carl was your client using 2045 or 2172. MAC or DOS?

Re: Create independent details

Anonymous — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:20:58 GMT

I am on MAC G5.
I still haven't solved this problem. I also have lots of Details in all my project files. I am crossing my fingers none of the data have been lost.

Re: Create independent details

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:38:47 GMT

awhile ago...someone issued a fix to corrupted elevations...I wonder if that would work...I have been looking for that fix...can someone help...I know it had something to do with rebuild all of the elevations at one shot...maybe it would work for this.....

Re: Create independent details

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:14:19 GMT

GS Tech Support has provided the resolution to this problem.

It looks like the result of a Home Zoom bug that was identified in a past build (and has since been corrected). The remnants of the bug may still linger on in some project settings.

The detail that was problematic was located several miles away from the origin. Most likely your client did not purposely put it there. What happened was your client never ever set the Home Zoom. (I don't use it and many users don't.) Over time, due to the old bug this zoom setting became absurdly small. The user, unaware that the detail was being placed a bazzillion miles from the orgin, went on his/her merry way not realizing that Archicad was preparing to delete the lines.

Archicad removes objects that are beyond what Archicad considers internally acceptable for details. Unfortunately the local origin of the detail gives no clue to the user of the situation. To verify the problem double click on the user origin button to show the global origin values

The solution is New and Reset for new projects or just make sure that the Home Zoom is set to something reasonable. With the current build [2172] this value should not change on its own.

Re: Create independent details

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:32:10 GMT

other than updating your version of AC...what is the fix...if any....

Re: Create independent details

Thomas Holm — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:20:33 GMT

Why not update? Is your copy pirated?

Re: Create independent details

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:54:38 GMT

I have updated to 2172 already. No, mine's not a pirated copy, I have been on AC for 12 years. I don't think we have pirated copies for Mac circulating in Canada anyway.

Re: Create independent details

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:47:34 GMT

r wrote:
other than updating your version of AC...what is the fix...if any....

The fix was given: make sure that when drawing an independent detail, that you are close to the 'real' origin. Double click the origin icon in the coordinates palette to reset the user origin to true origin and be sure to draw from there (or thereabouts).

Cheers,
Karl