topic Re: Wall clean up in Core only display in Modeling

Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:45:20 GMT

This is a problem for me. I need to have drawings for all kinds of things that are simple 2 line walls. Structure Display ( Core Only) almost works but the walls are only going to clean up when the core materials are the same.

Is there some way to use Model View Options or something to get all of the walls in a Core Only Structure Display to clean up properly?

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:04:22 GMT

You should be able to override the cut fills of the walls in the model view options

You don't even really need to set it to display core only because you can remove the skin separator lines if you wanted.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:29:56 GMT

I need to show wall lines of the core only and with dimensions.

Just turning off the fill display and skin lines doesn't display a useful set of lines for me. Perhaps there is some other settings I can use for this?

I would think this is a very common need for ArchiCAD users.

I need core only with dimensions for may things. It's what I use to generate .dwg files for the engineer and other trades. I use it to as Trace Reference in several ways. I copy it -explode it- to get wall fills for use with floor framing plans where I want to show walls above and below the floor framing. I use them for small scale drawings. I need simple 2-line walls showing core only with dimensions for lots of things for every project where I am showing wall skins.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Barry Kelly — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 01:20:49 GMT

Steve wrote:
Structure Display ( Core Only) almost works but the walls are only going to clean up when the core materials are the same.

You have answered your own question.
Nothing to do whether they are core skins or not.
Because the skins are different building materials they will not merge.
Can you set the walls to use the same core skin?

I am not sure if having different building materials but with the same strength and same fill will work either.
I don't have Archicad in front of me at the moment but I don't think it will.
They need to be the same building material.

Barry.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

David Maudlin — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:24:06 GMT

Steve:

You might be able to use a Renovation Filter Override, using the Fill Type option to override all the fills.

David

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 01:59:57 GMT

I'm pretty sure the settings I sent through should be what you want. See the attached image showing the various display options

You will just have to make sure your dimensions are set to core only (which is easier than every in AC19)

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:26:13 GMT

TiggerF,

What your showing it the entire wall thickness. I needs to be shown is the Core only. In my case this is the framing only. No other skins. I dimension to face of stud only and those dimensions need to show as well.

Also what your showing does not not clean up properly either.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:09:40 GMT

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:22:32 GMT

David wrote:
Steve:

You might be able to use a Renovation Filter Override, using the Fill Type option to override all the fills.

David

I haven't been able to do that either.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:27:59 GMT

I am going to say it can't be done. Perhaps this will prompt someone to prove me wrong.

All I want to do is show the Core only(framing) with dimensions and have it clean up properly when the Core materials don't match. For example when the exterior wall Core fill is an insulation fill and the partitions are Wood Framing 2x Lumber or something similar.

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

David Maudlin — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:30:31 GMT

Steve wrote:
David wrote:
You might be able to use a Renovation Filter Override, using the Fill Type option to override all the fills.
I haven't been able to do that either.

It works for Entire Model, but not for Core Only.

David

Re: Wall clean up in Core only display

Steve Jepson — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 02:00:55 GMT

The best way for me to get the simplified .dwg with 2-line walls I need for the Engineer ( when the core materials are not the same) is to just change the Core materials so they are the same. Then after I have generated the .dwg I still need to open it in ArchiCAD, consolidate lines, and do some editing. Then I copy and paste those lines into a stripped down empty template, do a little layer management, then generate the .dwg again from that stripped down template file which has the .dwg Translator settings needed for the Engineers version of AutoCAD. Still too much work!

All because it is not possible to have the Core only view of the walls clean up properly when the Core materials are not the same.

It's a tiny little thing in terms of program functionality and will probably never be considered a priority to the programmers so I have very little hope of getting this fixed.