topic Re: Depth marks on facade; in Modeling

Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Jul 2019 06:51:30 GMT

Hello,

How can i load depth marks on facade?
Ecample:

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Barry Kelly — Sat, 27 Jul 2019 09:37:27 GMT

What exactly do you mean?
Your image is not showing.

Barry.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Jul 2019 13:06:36 GMT

Marks that are showing distances on facade, For example closer wall is +/-0,00 and further wall is +1,20.

Did

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Barry Kelly — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 01:27:55 GMT

You can turn on the 'Marked Distance Area' in the section/elevation settings if that is what you mean.
It will automatically adjust the pen thickness or you can control by setting a uniform pen.

It won't show any marks in elevation - I still not sure what you mean by that.

Barry.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Lingwisyer — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 02:29:11 GMT

Like a Level Dimension for elevations and sections?

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:42:23 GMT

Hello,

I want to show in elevation depth marks, to put marks on walls, wall that is closer is for example +/- 0,00 and wall that is further is +1,10 etc, as I showed in picture that i posted.

Is it possible?

Thank you in advance

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Erwin Edel — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:20:11 GMT

Not that I know off.

I don't recall ever needing to add those dimensions to an elevation though. The person on the construction site who needs to know that dimension, will be looking at a floorplan, for example.

p.s.
you can upload images to attach them to your post, linked images from other sites don't seem to want to play nice with the forum.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:43:30 GMT

How can I upload picture directly to show you?

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Lingwisyer — Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:16:04 GMT

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Re: Depth marks on facade;

Barry Kelly — Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:21:10 GMT

Daut wrote:
How can I upload picture directly to show you?

When you create or reply to a post you will find an 'Upload attachment' tab below.
You can attach saved files but only in certain formats and there is a maximum size.
I have never had any problems with just doing a screen capture, saving that as a JPG file and then attaching it.

Barry.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Jul 2019 12:02:03 GMT

This is what I want to achieve :

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Barry Kelly — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 02:05:15 GMT

Archicad does not have the ability to do this in elevation, only in plan.
I am not even sure if an object could be created in GDL.
I have no idea if anything could be created as an add-on as I have no idea what is possible there.
The problem is that there is an origin point that elements can be referenced to to get their position, but it will be in a different location for every elevation.
Unlike the floor plan that has a constant origin height and storey levels to use.

Barry.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:01:29 GMT

Generating the Elevation, then adding Linear Gradient Fills or Radial Gradient Fills manually using the Fill Tool might give you the desired result. But it won't be automatic, you will have to place those Fills.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:49:28 GMT

This is what I would want to have in elevation. Those so called in my language "depth marks", are used in pretty much every project, and I would want to know is there any way to put them in Archicad.

To not be misunderstand, they represent distances of walls, but they are on elevation.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 03 Aug 2019 12:49:24 GMT

Sorry, I misunderstood your question, I thought it was about the Fills.

It would be good thing to know your ARCHICAD version because one method I want to suggest work only in AC22 and later. Would be a good idea to create a Signature in your Profile that displays this info for reference.

So actually you want to place "Level Dimensions" on your elevations, where your closes vertical Wall surface is "0,00", and Walls that are set back at certain distances from this Wall are marked with these "Level Dimensions" and they show the distance of their setback.

Yeah, so the basic problem is that you cannot place a Level Dimension in an Elevation (or as Barry said, you can place it ONLY in Floor Plan).
So you will have to substitute it with something else. I don't know if any automatic way of doing (maybe using Grasshopper, but I am not sure).
I would do one if 3 things:
1. Draw the Level Dimension Marker using Lines and Fills and Place a Text Block for the Dimension value. I would then group them and place them as many times as needed. In each instance you would have to edit the Text Block to make sure it displays the desired value. You would have to measure the value in Floor Plan.
2. Similar to Method 1, above, with the exception that I would save this as a GDL Object, then modify the 2D Script of the object to display in a Text Block the value of a text parameter. This text parameter would contain the Wall Depth value. Then I would place instances of this GDL Object and I would only have to modify the value of the parameter in each instance to display the correct Wall Depth value.
3. (this works in AC22 and later) I would create a "Wall Depth" Property, make it available for Walls. Then I would draw the Level Dimension Marker, like in Method 1, then place a Text Block, and within this Text Block, display the value of this "Wall Depth" Property using Autotext. Then I would save it as a Label using the "File > Libraries & Objects > Save Selection As > Label" menu command. Then I would use the Label Tool to place this as an Associative Label by click on various Walls in the Elevation. then I would simply have to fill out the value of the "Wall Depth" Property for those associated Walls. The Label will display the value of that Property.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Lingwisyer — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 02:11:06 GMT

Is there a way to check the normal vector of an elevation within the drawing? If so, it might be possible to script one in GDL.

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 05 Aug 2019 11:30:41 GMT

Not that I know of.
The one thing that might work is to use Grasshopper to do it.
If we get the geometries of these Walls into Grasshopper, there the setback distance of each Wall can be calculated and possibly written into a Property of each Wall in Grasshopper.
Then an Associated Label could be used to display the value of that Property in ARCHICAD (in Elevation or any other Viewpoint).

Re: Depth marks on facade;

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:52:55 GMT

Thank you for the anwer,

Ill try to make it manually as you said.