topic ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides in Modeling

ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 19:01:41 GMT

I am working in ArchiCAD 19, and I do not have access to Snap Guides. At one time I did, and it has disappeared (the function and the toggle in the Standard toolbar and View menu). What did I do to disable this function, and how do I get it back?

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 20:53:19 GMT

They should be in the standard toolbar. Did you modified it?

Anyway the snap guides can be turned on and off in the View Menu and there is a palete called control Box that contain the snap guides and you can put in your interface and use it from there.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:54:33 GMT

Are you looking for Guide Lines or Snap Guides?
The terminology has changed in ARCHICAD 19.
Prior to AC19 all those temporary editing lines were called Guide Lines.
In ARCHICAD 19 there are permanent editing aids. These continue to be called Guide Lines.
The temporary editing aids are now called Snap Guides.
Guide Lines and Snap Guides each have their own button on the Standard Toolbar using which you can turn their display ON or OFF.

I hope the following clip will help it clarify a bit more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyZfolzzes&index=1&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWXj_1QX5iXbZ0cfscL-VNEX

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Kamelite — Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:48:18 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Are you looking for Guide Lines or Snap Guides?
The terminology has changed in ARCHICAD 19.
Prior to AC19 all those temporary editing lines were called Guide Lines.
In ARCHICAD 19 there are permanent editing aids. There continue to be called Guide Lines.
The temporary editing aids are now called Snap Guides.
Guide Lines and Snap Guides each have their own button on the Standard Toolbar using which you can turn their display ON or OFF.

I hope the following clip will help it clarify a bit more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyZfolzzes&index=1&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWXj_1QX5iXbZ0cfscL-VNEX

Since we are discussing the subject, I'm missing the function where there was an Orange ball appearing if I hovered the pointer over a wall, for instance, and when I activated that "ball", a temporary guideline that followed the angle of the wall appeared. Is it removed, or is it a setting that I've missed somewhere?

.Kamelite

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 10 Jan 2016 10:55:08 GMT

The orange Ball is still available with Guide Lines (the orange lines - those input aids that are permanent, that stay displayed even after the editing step is finished). You can still drag Guide Lines with the orange ball.
However, it is not available with Snap Guides (the blue temporary lines that disappear when the editing operation is finished) because it does not apply to those as they work differently.

It may be a good idea for you to watch the entire ARCHICAD 19 Guide Lines playlist, it will probably answer most of your questions:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnXY6vLUwlWXj_1QX5iXbZ0cfscL-VNEX

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:36:34 GMT

I went through videos ARCHICAD 19 New Features - Guide Lines, but I am still missing this:
before (AC18)
- if you were hovering over some line segment you get the endless orange temporary guide line
- often this didn't work well and I was using the command "Force guide line display" with a keyboard shortcut, great way of quickly creating the guide lines
now (AC19)
- I can drag guide lines from edges
- there is command "Create guide lines segments" - forces creating short guide line
- there is command "Force snap reference" - forces creating Snap Guides
- is there no command equivalent to old "Force guide line display" or something similar?
I really wish to be able to create new Guide Lines on the fly, with a keyboard shortcut, sometimes I need many of them and dragging them from edges is too slow.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

David Maudlin — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:34:27 GMT

nejcek74 wrote:
- is there no command equivalent to old "Force guide line display" or something similar?
I really wish to be able to create new Guide Lines on the fly, with a keyboard shortcut, sometimes I need many of them and dragging them from edges is too slow.

You can try the command Create Guide Line Segment which allows you to draw a Guide Line. You can assign this command a keyboard shortcut.

David

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:57:06 GMT

Thx for reply, but Yes, I know for this option, it's in my post and I don't found it useful.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Erwin Edel — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 14:15:35 GMT

Have you tried Pin Snap Guide? You can probably assign a hotkey to that.

It creates the infinite temporary snap guides, sort of like guide lines used to work.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 15:08:39 GMT

Erwin wrote:
Have you tried Pin Snap Guide? .

Thx, went back to this (I already had a shortcut) + "highlight as snap reference after = 0.000 second" it kind of works. Without benefits of new guide lines and it is a little bit cumbersome, at least the way I use. Because you start with Snap point and have to drag out with some delays.
I hope in some future we will get proper command

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Erwin Edel — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 15:14:05 GMT

You can set the delay time in the work environment or use Q to show it instantly, I think.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:27:01 GMT

nejcek74 wrote:
Thx, went back to this (I already had a shortcut) + "highlight as snap reference after = 0.000 second" it kind of works. Without benefits of new guide lines and it is a little bit cumbersome, at least the way I use. Because you start with Snap point and have to drag out with some delays.
I hope in some future we will get proper command

I think this change comes from the nature of these two input aid types.
Up to AC18 Guide Lines were infinite.

In AC19 this was divided into two types: Guide Lines and Snap Guides. Out of these two, by nature Snap Guides are infinite, Guide Lines are not. This is why the "Force Guide Line segment" is no longer available because it would have to create an infinite length line and a Guide Line in AC19 is never infinite in length.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:07:04 GMT

You still have infinite guide lines if you drag them from sides.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:30:09 GMT

Oh, that's right, I forgot about those.
So isn't that the answer to your question?

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:37:28 GMT

Sorry, but it's not. I thought it was clear written in my first and then following posts, but seems I don't express myself clear enough. I will try to say it better:
before (AC18)
- if you were hovering over some line segment you get the endless orange temporary guide line
- often this didn't work well and I was using the command "Force guide line display" with a keyboard shortcut, great way for quickly creating the guide lines
now (AC19)
- I can drag guide lines from edges
- there is command "Create guide lines segments" - forces creating short guide line, two clicks
- there are commands "Force snap reference" and "Pin Snap Guide" - they help with creating Snap Guides
what I am searching for
is there a command equivalent to old "Force guide line display" or something similar that would make an infinite guide line on the spot with a press of keyboard shorcut?
why I am searching for this
Dragging line is slow when you try to make many guide lines. Finite guide lines are also not helpful when you are zoomed to click existing points but you need them elsewhere. So, we know there are ways to do it with dragging / with lines / with Snap guides but I look for a direct, fast way to use the new amazing shiny Guide line that stays on screen after the first drawing command.
Hope I don't sound ungrateful for everyone's efforts, I appreciate it.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:14:03 GMT

When you drag the Guide Line from the side and drop it onto an element edge, it creates the infinite Guide Line on that element edge. Isn't this what you want to do?

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:25:07 GMT

I would like to do it with a keyboard shortcut not dragging.
Because using keyboard shortcuts is much faster way than clicking on toolbars, palettes, using context menus, dragging, etc. At least for me

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:12:25 GMT

OK, I finally get it, you want to perform this action with a key press. Instead of dragging it from the side to the element, you just want to hover the mouse over the element and press a key to place the Guide Line.

I checked all the available commands in the Work Environment Dialog but unfortunately I have not seen one which would be able to do this.

You could make a wish to get back this functionality (Place Infinity Guide Line) in future releases.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

Bruce — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 03:22:11 GMT

I know what you're after nejcek74, because I'm after the same thing. The short answer is "No, but..."

To mimic the "force guide line" command, do the same thing you did in v18 (i.e. hover over a point / line, press your short cut key if you don't want to wait). The difference is:
1. They are now called Snap Guides, not Guide Lines.
2. They will only show up when your cursor is near their projection angle (they won't show all the time).
3. They are a different colour (blue by default).

However, they will still disappear when your command is complete - just like the old Guilde Lines used to.

All this you already know. What you may not know is: If you want to make the Snap Guide infinite and always showing regardless of where your cursor is, right-click on the Snap Guide and select 'Pin Snap Guide' (you can assign a shortcut key to this). This is as close as you can get to the old Guide Line behaviour.

There is no way I know of to turn a Snap Guide into a Guide Line.

So, to summarise:
1. To make a Snap Guide show immediately, be infinite, and always show for the duration of the command (i.e. like the old Guide Lines), you will need two short cut keys. One to force the snap reference, one to pin the Snap Guide.
2. To make a Guide Line infinite & permanent, you have to drag from the edge - there is no short cut key...yet.

Re: ArchiCAD 19 Snap Guides

nejcek74 — Sun, 24 Jan 2016 14:01:52 GMT

Seems like that is it. Thx to everyone for their efforts