topic Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?) in Modeling

Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:52:20 GMT

I have quite a few curved walls in this model.
I've placed an "out of the box" exterior elevation and the "edge" of the curved wall is NOT showing....what gives folks?

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Barry Kelly — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 01:45:17 GMT

It seems to happen when the edge of the window opening is placed exactly on the end of the curved wall.
Sorry I don't have a solution except to move the window slightly away from the end of the curved wall.
Oddly enough though when I move it back to the end the wall remains visible - so maybe that is the solution.
Place it, move it then move it back.

Barry.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:06:20 GMT

ahh geez...but I don't understand what you mean by "move the window"?
move the windows how?

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Barry Kelly — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 02:09:45 GMT

Select the window in plan and drag it away from the end of the curved wall.
This only needs to be a small move in my experiment.
Now look at the elevation and the wall should be OK - it was for me.
Try moving the window back in plan to where it was before - my wall remained OK in elevation after I had done this.

Barry.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Stress Co_ — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:52:51 GMT

I hate it when it doesn't work as expected,
but I'd draw a 2D line and move on.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:56:35 GMT

Arghhhh!!!!....no no no....no 2D!.....model "MUST" work!.
geez...I despise doing that. drawing 2D stuff when the model should just "WORK".....

I tried the window movement around.
didn't do if for me.
as a matter of fact, when I copy the 'curved wall over to the left 10 feet and just look at the elevation of the curved wall...same thing....it does'nt show the edge...dunno.
this blows.

Stress wrote:
I hate it when it doesn't work as expected,
but I'd draw a 2D line and move on.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:06:59 GMT

seriously.....I have no idea what causes this?
it has something to do with the the wall cleanups?
dunno...cause when I copy these walls over and do a "fillet with radius of 4'0") it wont show the edge, with or without windows, doors, whatevers....still blows.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:11:09 GMT

I mean..here's the test.
take two walls at 90 degrees from each other.
Don't make them touch just yet.
separate the walls by say....10'
so you should have an "OPEN" L-shaped diagram in plan.
then use the "chamfer" corner command and use the "radius" instead of the "chamfer" at about 5 feet.
then look at the elevation. Seems the "chamfer" and the walls do something where the "edge" becomes invisible....it's a glitch.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Barry Kelly — Thu, 05 Mar 2015 02:04:34 GMT

Chamfered walls work fine for me until I put a window in exactly at the end of the curved wall.

Barry.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Thu, 05 Mar 2015 02:07:20 GMT

huh....well...dunno sir.
dunno if it's a composite issue, a wall issue, a real live glitch issue...just dunno.
allz I know is that it doesn't produce an "edge" line when viewing the wall in elevation.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:13:37 GMT

I will report this issue to Graphisoft.
Seems to be caused when the Window is placed so its edge is at the exact point where the curved and straight wall segments meet.

Rob, as a workaround you can try to move all your Windows in the curved Wall just a little tiny bit. The move should be so little that dimensioning does not even show it because of rounding. That way the line may appear.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:22:53 GMT

thank you Lasz for your suggestion.
I have indeed tried doing just that and the will still does not show its edge.
I've even tried to "remove" all the windows and still, no edge showing.

I just can't figure it out.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:16:04 GMT

Hm, that's strange because I tried the same thing in my ArchiCAD copy and it worked and the line has now appeared.
If you remove the Window from the Wall, does the line appear? Just to establish that the Window is causing the line disappearance.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:22:01 GMT

I've tried it with two "simple" (basic) walls.
put them 90 degrees to each other....use the "fillet command" with a 5'-0" radius lets say...hit "enter" and the two walls will fillet themselves with a curved corner, then I look at them in elevation and no line to represent the curved corner...dunno.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 08 Mar 2015 23:08:32 GMT

Could you save this file and send it to your local reseller guy of GS USA or whoever provides you with support. This may be file-specific. I am sure the guys at GS HQ would be interested in looking at it.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Sun, 08 Mar 2015 23:10:50 GMT

Most certainly will.
the file is "not" that large so I'll send it to my local GS reps.

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

Katalin Borszeki — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:14:46 GMT

We have investigated this issue and recorded the bug! It is planned to be fixed in the next ArchiCAD version, ArchiCAD 19!! Tx for the input!!

Re: Curved Walls (curved edge not showing in elevation?)

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 14:07:47 GMT

Chalk up another bug to me! That makes 2......well, at least now I can sleep at night knowing I'm not going insane.