topic Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish? in Modeling

How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

4hotshoes — Tue, 09 May 2023 13:52:11 GMT

Part of the design of the building is to show expansion joints cut into the stucco layer of a wall assembly like trim. Joints will run from window corners both vertically and horizontally to create a grid. I have an image attached saved from Sketchup.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

Christophe Fortineau — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 20:03:57 GMT

Hello 4hotshoes,

I use the curtain wall tool to do this because I can change the layout if necessary.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

4hotshoes — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 20:10:29 GMT

How would you do this with the Curtain Wall tool? What parts would create the joints, stucco? I have a 2x6 stud wall.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 01:13:53 GMT

You could have a Curtain Wall with invisible frames, so the visible geometry would be just panels. When defining the panels you could specify the thickness of the panels, which would be equal to the depth of the joints, and also the gap between panels, which would be the width of the joints. Then you could just place the Curtain Wall in front of the Wall, and place it on a separate Layer so you can make it visible or hidden, as needed.
AS you may know, you can also simply place am empty Curtain Wall (no pattern), then go to an Elevation, select the Curtain Wall, go to Edit Mode and simply draw the positions of the Frames (invisible Frames, so they would actually define the joints).

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

jakubc7 — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 01:53:21 GMT

4hotshoes the curtain wall suggestion is probably quite a good one but I know the tool may be little intimidating if you haven't used it before.

Method I tend to use is to model columns and beams where you want the score lines to be. Make sure the building material has a higher priority than the walls and place it on the hidden layer.

Columns and Beams do not need to be substituted from the walls (ie. no need to use Solid Element Operations) as they subtract automatically when hidden. I find this to work very well.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 09:26:49 GMT

I agree with jakubc7. Columns and Beams are much more simpler and easy to control.
Our good friend Jared Banks from Shoegnome posted a tutorial with this technic sometime ago.
But it is still valid.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:34:24 GMT

Yes, I agree, that is a pretty good solution.

Re: How to show expansion joints in stucco wall finish?

Richard Morrison — Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:05:09 GMT

I've always used the Trussmaker tool, which can be SEO'd, or just use a thin, dark gray material and leave the truss on the surface. It's hard to tell the differences in depth. Beams and columns obviously work, too.