topic Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D? in Modeling

Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:10:33 GMT

Hi all

I am having issue with the opening on 2D of my curtain wall, when I switch Floor Plan Display from symbolic to projected. Please see attached.

On the left, the Floor Plan Display of the curtain wall is still symbolic and the swing opening is shown. But on the right the swing opening of the door is not shown when I switch Floor Plan Display from Symbolic to Projected.

Do you have ideas how to show the swing opening in Projected?

Thanks a lot

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Lingwisyer — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 02:58:18 GMT

You can still show the door by setting the 3D opening angle of the door but this is limited to just showing the door panel at the chosen angle. The swing line and such would then have to be manually drawn as Barry has mentioned.

Ling.

Edit: I guess consistency between objects is still too much to ask for...

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:08:10 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
You can still show the door by setting the 3D opening angle of the door but this is limited to just showing the door panel at the chosen angle. The swing line and such would then have to be manually drawn as Barry has mentioned.

Not true it seems with curtain walls (which is why I deleted my post).
I assumed it was the same as standard doors - I don't use curtain walls much.

I just placed a curtain wall, changed a panel to a door and made the wall 'Projected with Overhead'.
The door swing still shows,

Maybe there is another setting somewhere, or it could be the door panel is not open in 3D, or it could be the type of door panel used.
I just used 'CW Door 22'.

Barry.

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:15:35 GMT

Looks like version 22 is different to version 18 & 19.
Projected with Overhead loses the door swings in 18.

Here is the original post I deleted to help explain.
I vaguely remember it did change in later versions.

The 'Projected' view is an actual view of the 3D elements.
As there is no door swing in 3D, you will not see it in the projected view either.

If you have an option to open the door in 3D then you will see the door panel in an open position, but still no door swing.

The swing is scripted into the 2D script and it is that scripted view that you see with 'Symbolic' as well as the scripted view of the door panel and frames.

There is no way to combine the 2 that I know of.
All you can do is manually draw the swing in - or use the Symbolic view of course.

Barry.

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:18:41 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

If I keep the curtain wall as Symbolic, is there anyway to show the bottom frame outline, like it is shown on Projected?

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:32:02 GMT

Hi,

Now I am able to show door open in 2D but the swing is not shown. So there isn't any way to show the swing in 2D (Projected) ?

I am using AC 20, if that helps.

Thanks all

Re: Curtain Wall door opening symbol on 2D?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:53:38 GMT

I just had a look at 20 and it seems to me you have Projected where you see the frame and door panel - but no swings.
Or Symbolic where you have the door swing and the scripted view of the door panel and frames - but this does not include the horizontal base frames - only the vertical ones.

But as I said I do not use curtain walls very often, so I may be missing something.

It seems that it all changes in version 22 where you have much more control.

Barry.