topic Re: window transparency in hidden line views in Modeling

window transparency in hidden line views

Peter Bennison — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:30:06 GMT

In previous versions (6.5 ?) AC standard windows had very useful glazing on/off box, allowing you to see through windows in basic 3d hidden line views when glazing box was checked off.

This is not rendering, nor shaded view so 3d transparency and material options do not apply.

Now in AC7 the standard window menus are much more complicated, but can't find this basic feature ?

Not to mention the really annoying standard dimension feature that appeared in AC7 which prevents you stretching the window to fit a non standard dimension, can't find any way to turn this off, have to resort to measuring the dimension I want and entering it numerically, very slow.

How does AC8 perform on this one? (nearly update purchase time for me).

I'm sure Theometric windows would allow this ?? (another overdue update purchase for me)

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

David Pacifico — Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:53:32 GMT

I think in 7.0 it became possible to be able to turn ON "Transparency in shading" in Image/3D Window Settings. A little different effect than turning the glass off but effective. (You'll want if off when generating Section/Elevations.)

In 8.0 you have 2 different 3D engines. When using the OpenGL engine when you turn Transparency in shading on it has the effect of just making anything with 70% transparency or more appear like it is not there.

In the Window Parameter list check and see if you can set the size to "Custom." Then you should be able to stretch in plan to a custom size.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Peter Bennison — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:35:53 GMT

Thanks David

But as far as I know all the transparency settings available in the 3d window options menu only affect shaded or rendered views, I am interested in the hidden line only views for the moment.

Because I rarely have the time/fees to go beyond simple line drawing perspectives and axonometrics that I colour up by hand for a quick result.

Which is why the choice between dead looking blank closed windows or windows where you can see what is happening the other side (in hidden line) is a big issue for me.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

David Pacifico — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 00:29:25 GMT

Hello Peter
Check it in 7.0. I posted an example from the 3D window hidden line at my previous post.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Djordje — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:37:58 GMT

Peter wrote:
But as far as I know all the transparency settings available in the 3d window options menu only affect shaded or rendered views, I am interested in the hidden line only views for the moment.

No; they also affect hidden line views and sections and elevations too.

Make sure your glass material is transparent, though.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Link — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:12:31 GMT

This brings up a point that has often raised my eyeballs up and to the left. Why is the transparency for a section/elevation not set within the section/elevation tool itself, like most of the other attributes?

Makes sense hey? Especially when you have saved 3D viewsets and section/elevations, with different transparency options.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:16:52 GMT

Link wrote:
Why is the transparency for a section/elevation not set within the section/elevation tool itself, like most of the other attributes?

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Link wrote:
Makes sense hey?

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Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:24:11 GMT

As far as I am concerned, this is a major problem. You can not save elevation view sets with the option of window transparancy on or off. The elevation views are at the mercy of the 3d window. This is not right and in my mind requires an immediate fix.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:55:48 GMT

Dr wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this is a major problem. You can not save elevation view sets with the option of window transparancy on or off. The elevation views are at the mercy of the 3d window. This is not right and in my mind requires an immediate fix.

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Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Djordje — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:03:28 GMT

Dr wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this is a major problem. You can not save elevation view sets with the option of window transparancy on or off. The elevation views are at the mercy of the 3d window. This is not right and in my mind requires an immediate fix.

I will have to check, but I seem to remember that whatever is set in the 3D window when you define the elevation QuickView gets remembered. I usually keep the transparency on in 3D, but make a point of switching it off for the elevations (confuses most people).

Will check and report back.

Re: window transparency in hidden line views

Djordje — Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:31:45 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Dr wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this is a major problem. You can not save elevation view sets with the option of window transparancy on or off. The elevation views are at the mercy of the 3d window. This is not right and in my mind requires an immediate fix.
I will have to check, but I seem to remember that whatever is set in the 3D window when you define the elevation QuickView gets remembered. I usually keep the transparency on in 3D, but make a point of switching it off for the elevations (confuses most people).

Will check and report back.

Just checked in 8.1 INT R1.

Nope, whatever is set in the 3D window gets generated regardless of the settings when the view is saved. On top of that, rebuild when the transparency is changed has to be done with Rebuild&Regenerate in order to get the transparency.

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