topic Re: How to add grove line in Wall in Modeling

How to add grove line in Wall

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2023 13:50:36 GMT

Dear Friends,
I am working on a project with intensive detail. I need to add groove lines in each and every exterior wall. (See Fig 1 & 2) . This groove line is Cement-Sand Plaster.
I attached two screenshots for 2D Autocad drawing & Render.
I am planning to model the whole building with a composite profile ( excluding exterior groove/ plaster). Then, I will wrap the exterior with another complex profile to add the groove/plaster)

I need to know what would be the best way to do this kind of detail? Is this the right way to do this?
Please let me know ur idea/suggestion regarding this issue.

Sincerely
Avi Shiplu

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

vistasp — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:49:28 GMT

You are likely to add a lot of polygons to your model, Avi!

The simplest thing would be a texture that closely mimics the grooves, although it might not give you the level of realism you're looking for.

Apart from complex profiles, have a look at Jared's "strong air" trick, and see if it works for you.

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Lingwisyer — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 01:28:08 GMT

If your texture includes Normals, the realism will be up there without the performance hit.

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Richard Morrison — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 05:01:09 GMT

One easy way is to take an elevation view, draw a truss with lines, then use Trussmaker to draw a truss with 1"
x 1/2" members (or whatever your equivalent is) . After it's drawn you can SEO out the grooves. Drawing beams and columns can also work, after which you SEO out the grooves.

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

David Shorter — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 02:00:05 GMT

Model the wall as you would construct it.
Use a complex profile including the groves as this will work in elevation.
On this size of building the extra polygons will not slow model significantly

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Anonymous — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 08:29:25 GMT

David wrote:
Model the wall as you would construct it.
Use a complex profile including the groves as this will work in elevation.
On this size of building the extra polygons will not slow model significantlygrove.png

Dear David,
I know how to model this profile using a 'complex profile' but I am more concerned with the graphical representation. There is are two line types in a profile (see fig-1).
The outer line is bold and the inner lines/groove lines are lighter. Can you please suggest how can I achieve this graphical representation.

Sincerely
Avi Shiplu

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

David Shorter — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 01:16:28 GMT

One way do this is to manually by outline the elements at the front using the Line Tool.
This is a convention in manual drafting to show the elements at the front but is difficult Archicad.
My first option is to build the wall (as above)but unfortunately using the 'outline' option also applies the outline pen to all the grooves.
The alternative is to create a hatch pattern to show the grooves (and a matching texture) and use this as the Surface for the wall. In this way you can set the outline pen the a thick pen and the will not affect the groove.
The result is as follows:-

Hope this helps

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Carstenem — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 08:26:54 GMT

This is s abit of an older video tutorial of mine but still an option )

Cheers Carsten

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

David Shorter — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 09:30:50 GMT

Hi Carsten
How do you show a thicker pen around the projecting part od the elevation.?
Long time no see!!!
D

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Carstenem — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:54:59 GMT

Hey David, yes VERY long time no see !
YOU asking me a question on how to represent something in 2D? lol Last time I had to think about this was probably over 20 years

I think unless you draw an extra line around in the Elevation it is not gonna work as the pen thickness of walls are still applied to window openings?

Tell me how it is done.

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

David Shorter — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 23:02:45 GMT

More than 20 I think
See my solution above... it works

Re: How to add grove line in Wall

Carstenem — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 23:42:11 GMT

sshhh don't tell anyone. Nice solution very neat !