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    <title>topic Re: Archicad 25 in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267610#M139664</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
It seems you are suggesting stealing ArchiCAD or any other software is ok as long as you have a "good" reason to steal it.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

You completely missing the point. Architects stealing all the time ideas of each other. Property developers are stealing projects from architects. Builders stealing tools and building materials from site. The all construction industry is stealing money from people by overpricing property value and selling to you an apartment for the price 10 times higher then it worth.&lt;BR /&gt;
And if there is a chance to get something for free - most people consider to take it.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Software piracy is unique phenomena and through all history of computers were discussions - shall software be for free. There is unique movement between programmers, called open source and GNU licence. Today under this licence developed quite a lot of software: UNIX, Linux, Android, Blender, GIMP, Google applications, Open Office, Apache... the list is actually big and it's getting bigger. Some of them just free some of them open source...&lt;BR /&gt;
The idea of open source and GNU that software is part of hardware and you don't need to pay for it. Any hardware has software - and people never even thought to buy it. Like you never paying for software in calculator or TV - when they actually also have some OS there. Apple mostly following this logic - as nobody is paying for MacOS or iOS.&lt;BR /&gt;
Piracy mostly following this idea. They actually consider themselves Robin Goods. Helping poor people to be more educated in computers. So you can say anything you want, but piracy always will exist.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The question I'm rising is that there is evidence showing that Graphisoft never tried hard to protect their software from piracy. They always had a chance to protect ArchiCAD that it would be "uncrackable", but this chance (apart of version 6) was dismissed. By another hand - done a little to provide solid solution to big architectural and construction companies (on corporative level). Any big company (50 and more employees) will suffer using ArchiCAD in their business. Or they need also to have their own GDL programmers and Add-ons developers, who will re-introduce some of ArchiCAD functionality, how it happens in Japan (is it Cadjima corporation?)&lt;BR /&gt;
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So Graphisoft is not targeting segment of the market, that could bring them more money.&lt;BR /&gt;
What top managers of Graphisoft are thinking - I don't understand. But seems they are not very good strategists in business - especially looking how quickly Revit took the market worldwide. Last promise we all hear in version 24 to make ArchiCAD software number one on BIM market currently did not happen. Reminds more promise of Donald Trump make America great again.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 08:30:59 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Podolsky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-07-08T08:30:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267558#M139612</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;Where can I find a list of what new goodies we can expect in the next version of archicad?&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:16:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267558#M139612</guid>
      <dc:creator>Narska</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-26T16:16:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267559#M139613</link>
      <description>Not available yet. 25 is in Beta so the people who know are under NDA. Usually the list is published near the AIA convention.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:17:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267559#M139613</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Rolon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-26T17:17:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267560#M139614</link>
      <description>Any new info on AC25 yet?? I never understood why GS is always so hush hush about upcoming features.  A roadmap would be great to have available.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 23:52:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267560#M139614</guid>
      <dc:creator>MMontgomery</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-03T23:52:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267561#M139615</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;MMontgomery wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any new info on AC25 yet?? 
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&lt;BR /&gt;
There is some speculation here as to when it is all going to happen.&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;A href="https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635"&gt;https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Whether it is correct or not I can't say (or rather I haven't heard anything other than from that post).&lt;BR /&gt;
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Those that know what is included can't say anything until it is announced, so I guess we will just have to wait patiently.&lt;BR /&gt;
There will be a post here as soon as it is announced.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Maybe there will even be an announcement to announce the announcement of the release date and features. &lt;BR /&gt;
I wonder when that will be? &lt;BR /&gt;
(just having a bit of fun  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; )&lt;BR /&gt;
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Barry.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 00:23:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267561#M139615</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-04T00:23:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267562#M139616</link>
      <description>When might the AC25 devkit be available? I cannot find it in Beta site or in ArchicadAPI-site.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 08:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267562#M139616</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-04T08:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267563#M139617</link>
      <description>Hi VilleR,&lt;BR /&gt;
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In the beta site, there is a separate link for API Downloads. The name of the link is "Download DevKits". It is next to the "Download Archicad" and "Download Goodies" links.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 23:15:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267563#M139617</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-06T23:15:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267564#M139618</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;LaszloNagy wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Hi VilleR,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
In the beta site, .......... "Download DevKits". It is next to the "Download Archicad" and "Download Goodies" links.
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No I don't think so - unless you have special permission.?? Are we talking about two different things?? Very confusing.  I agree that lack of access to the 25 devkit beta is a MAJOR mistake.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 23:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267564#M139618</guid>
      <dc:creator>poco2013</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-06T23:55:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267565#M139619</link>
      <description>Ah, sorry, I did not think about that.&lt;BR /&gt;
Maybe not everyone has the same downloads available.&lt;BR /&gt;
I am on the beta site with a Graphisoft company registration, not as a regular beta tester.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2021 00:57:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267565#M139619</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-07T00:57:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267566#M139620</link>
      <description>I remember last few times I joined the beta, that the DevKit is not automatically available. But I didn't get in this year, so what do I know?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:30:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267566#M139620</guid>
      <dc:creator>stefan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-11T06:30:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267567#M139621</link>
      <description>Any news about the release of version 25 or its announcement?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267567#M139621</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darwuhr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T08:44:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267568#M139622</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Darwuhr wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any news about the release of version 25 or its announcement?
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

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As in the other post most are saying July 7th will be the announcement.&lt;BR /&gt;
June 7th has been and gone - so I think that was just a mistake (or wishful thinking).&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am sure when there is an official announcement from Graphisoft HQ, we will all know about it.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Barry.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:03:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267568#M139622</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T09:03:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267569#M139623</link>
      <description>7th of June was the wrong date of Archicad release from one Russian distributor website. They probably made a mistake, that later been fixed to the 7th of July.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Do you see how Russian hackers trying to disturb Archicad releases?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:26:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267569#M139623</guid>
      <dc:creator>Podolsky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T12:26:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267570#M139624</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;MMontgomery wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any new info on AC25 yet?? I never understood why GS is always so hush hush about upcoming features.  A roadmap would be great to have available.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

A public roadmap means you are now accountable. Better not to say what you're working on that way no one can complain that you didn't deliver on your promises &lt;E&gt;;-)&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
But with less cynicism, a public roadmap would be fantastic. It shows commitment and direction on the part of the company. It also gives the customers basis for a meaningful and constructive exchange with the company. Otherwise it's all just speculation and a bunch of disgruntled people complaining about stuff all the time &lt;E&gt;;-)&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:12:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267570#M139624</guid>
      <dc:creator>Professor Pickle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-24T20:12:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267571#M139625</link>
      <description>&lt;A href="https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25" target="_blank"&gt;https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 09:20:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267571#M139625</guid>
      <dc:creator>Srinivas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T09:20:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267572#M139626</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Srinivas wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25" target="_blank"&gt;https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Thanks! I see even the Spanish version shows already there. Not many improvements to call home about at first sight, though  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_neutral.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Installing now...&lt;BR /&gt;
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Oopss. It seems the licenceses have not been updated  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_mad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 11:45:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267572#M139626</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jp1138</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T11:45:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267573#M139627</link>
      <description>I am interested in the ability to find and work with elements between 2d and 3D. It doesn’t sound as integrated as in Revit but I’m glad for the effort. It will make life easier in complex models! I do wish for the ability to demolish wall layers in a composite structure and in complex profiles.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267573#M139627</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T12:39:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267574#M139628</link>
      <description>well, just saw the "new" features video... this is going to get ugly</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:54:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267574#M139628</guid>
      <dc:creator>jl_lt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T12:54:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267575#M139629</link>
      <description>The EVEREST project was implemented to bring ArchiCAD to the pole position in the market, &lt;BR /&gt;
i can't see how this release can help in the project,</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:21:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267575#M139629</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ahmed_K</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T13:21:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267576#M139630</link>
      <description>Very weak release</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:42:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267576#M139630</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T13:42:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267577#M139631</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;outpostarc wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
I am interested in the ability to find and work with elements between 2d and 3D.
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I tried this new feature and from 3D to 2D it works only if the layer is visible in 2D. The new command doesn't turn on the layer, so it is quite useless.  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_sad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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This is an embarrassing release.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 14:55:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267577#M139631</guid>
      <dc:creator>henryL</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T14:55:38Z</dc:date>
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