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    <title>topic Re: Archicad 25 in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267677#M139731</link>
    <description>I'm not going to parrot all the other people saying how lackluster this update is, but I have to say that after playing around with it for two days now, it's just frustratingly awful.&lt;BR /&gt;
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1. I've got an 8GB AMD RX 5700XT in this Mac that is pretty powerful (I run OctaneX in C4D and can do some fairly impressive real time visuals). Simply scrolling in the 3D window in AC25 when you have a mildly complex scene is unusable. Constant beachballs. I'm not talking about huge poly objects either. In fact, I was just designing some new tile layouts for our project template and am only using slabs.&lt;BR /&gt;
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2. The 3D Connexion SpaceMouse doesn't work at all.&lt;BR /&gt;
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3. Switching between tabs causes it to swap back to another tab intermittently and you have to repeatedly click on the tab you want when this occurs.&lt;BR /&gt;
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4. Using the subtract option on a slab over and over again causes the points you have chosen to click on to randomly move to other points on the slab.&lt;BR /&gt;
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5. The idea that GS is touting how they "rewrote the graphics in Metal" and it should be a "significant improvement" is a joke. AC24 was much faster.&lt;BR /&gt;
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6. Integrating structural analysis, while I understand the desire to reach out to structural engineers, is pretty silly. I don't know a single structural engineer who uses AC, and I highly doubt with the way this release is going that GS is going to attract people to switch.&lt;BR /&gt;
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7. Has anyone at GS ever done an architectural project? There are so many workflow enhancements that could have been included, such as:&lt;BR /&gt;
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Allowing slabs to be rotated instead of needing to turn them into morphs&lt;BR /&gt;
Not having to repeatedly click on the subtract or add tools and instead allow you to continue using the same function over and over again&lt;BR /&gt;
Grouping in section/elevation&lt;BR /&gt;
Working with Maxon (now owned by the same company as GS) to ensure that the 3D capabilities are as smooth as they are in C4D and can handle high poly counts&lt;BR /&gt;
Working with manufacturers to ensure that real world objects are readily available. Converting RVTs never really works correctly. I have spent so much time creating door leafs, modeling lights in C4D and importing them into AC, etc.&lt;BR /&gt;
Buy CI and integrate all of their tools, especially cabinets and electrical (no, the new cabinet tool is not sufficient to replace CI)&lt;BR /&gt;
Make stairs and railings a lot more user friendly. Sure, I get what I need (eventually) but it's time consuming and a serious hassle&lt;BR /&gt;
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I could go on and on, but you get the point. AC is supposedly designed by architects for architects, or at least that was the slogan years ago. Not sure what has happened over the last few years, but it seems it's more about taking people's money and doing the least amount possible, rather than putting out serious software for professionals.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Again, these are my findings after less than two full days of use. How this got through beta is astonishing.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:48:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>kittonian</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-07-14T18:48:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267558#M139612</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;Where can I find a list of what new goodies we can expect in the next version of archicad?&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:16:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267558#M139612</guid>
      <dc:creator>Narska</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-26T16:16:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267559#M139613</link>
      <description>Not available yet. 25 is in Beta so the people who know are under NDA. Usually the list is published near the AIA convention.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:17:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267559#M139613</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Rolon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-04-26T17:17:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267560#M139614</link>
      <description>Any new info on AC25 yet?? I never understood why GS is always so hush hush about upcoming features.  A roadmap would be great to have available.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 23:52:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267560#M139614</guid>
      <dc:creator>MMontgomery</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-03T23:52:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267561#M139615</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;MMontgomery wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any new info on AC25 yet?? 
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There is some speculation here as to when it is all going to happen.&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;A href="https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635"&gt;https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;amp;t=73635&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Whether it is correct or not I can't say (or rather I haven't heard anything other than from that post).&lt;BR /&gt;
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Those that know what is included can't say anything until it is announced, so I guess we will just have to wait patiently.&lt;BR /&gt;
There will be a post here as soon as it is announced.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Maybe there will even be an announcement to announce the announcement of the release date and features. &lt;BR /&gt;
I wonder when that will be? &lt;BR /&gt;
(just having a bit of fun  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; )&lt;BR /&gt;
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Barry.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 00:23:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267561#M139615</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-04T00:23:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267562#M139616</link>
      <description>When might the AC25 devkit be available? I cannot find it in Beta site or in ArchicadAPI-site.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 08:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267562#M139616</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-04T08:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267563#M139617</link>
      <description>Hi VilleR,&lt;BR /&gt;
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In the beta site, there is a separate link for API Downloads. The name of the link is "Download DevKits". It is next to the "Download Archicad" and "Download Goodies" links.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 23:15:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267563#M139617</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-06T23:15:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267564#M139618</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;LaszloNagy wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Hi VilleR,&lt;BR /&gt;
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In the beta site, .......... "Download DevKits". It is next to the "Download Archicad" and "Download Goodies" links.
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No I don't think so - unless you have special permission.?? Are we talking about two different things?? Very confusing.  I agree that lack of access to the 25 devkit beta is a MAJOR mistake.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 23:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267564#M139618</guid>
      <dc:creator>poco2013</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-06T23:55:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267565#M139619</link>
      <description>Ah, sorry, I did not think about that.&lt;BR /&gt;
Maybe not everyone has the same downloads available.&lt;BR /&gt;
I am on the beta site with a Graphisoft company registration, not as a regular beta tester.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2021 00:57:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267565#M139619</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-07T00:57:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267566#M139620</link>
      <description>I remember last few times I joined the beta, that the DevKit is not automatically available. But I didn't get in this year, so what do I know?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:30:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267566#M139620</guid>
      <dc:creator>stefan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-11T06:30:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267567#M139621</link>
      <description>Any news about the release of version 25 or its announcement?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 08:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267567#M139621</guid>
      <dc:creator>Darwuhr</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T08:44:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267568#M139622</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Darwuhr wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any news about the release of version 25 or its announcement?
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As in the other post most are saying July 7th will be the announcement.&lt;BR /&gt;
June 7th has been and gone - so I think that was just a mistake (or wishful thinking).&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am sure when there is an official announcement from Graphisoft HQ, we will all know about it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Barry.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:03:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267568#M139622</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T09:03:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267569#M139623</link>
      <description>7th of June was the wrong date of Archicad release from one Russian distributor website. They probably made a mistake, that later been fixed to the 7th of July.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Do you see how Russian hackers trying to disturb Archicad releases?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:26:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267569#M139623</guid>
      <dc:creator>Podolsky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-16T12:26:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267570#M139624</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;MMontgomery wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
Any new info on AC25 yet?? I never understood why GS is always so hush hush about upcoming features.  A roadmap would be great to have available.
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A public roadmap means you are now accountable. Better not to say what you're working on that way no one can complain that you didn't deliver on your promises &lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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But with less cynicism, a public roadmap would be fantastic. It shows commitment and direction on the part of the company. It also gives the customers basis for a meaningful and constructive exchange with the company. Otherwise it's all just speculation and a bunch of disgruntled people complaining about stuff all the time &lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:12:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267570#M139624</guid>
      <dc:creator>Professor Pickle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-24T20:12:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267571#M139625</link>
      <description>&lt;A href="https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25" target="_blank"&gt;https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 09:20:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267571#M139625</guid>
      <dc:creator>Srinivas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T09:20:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267572#M139626</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Srinivas wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25" target="_blank"&gt;https://graphisoft.com/solutions/archicad/archicad-25&lt;/A&gt;
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Thanks! I see even the Spanish version shows already there. Not many improvements to call home about at first sight, though  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_neutral.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Installing now...&lt;BR /&gt;
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Oopss. It seems the licenceses have not been updated  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_mad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 11:45:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267572#M139626</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jp1138</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T11:45:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267573#M139627</link>
      <description>I am interested in the ability to find and work with elements between 2d and 3D. It doesn’t sound as integrated as in Revit but I’m glad for the effort. It will make life easier in complex models! I do wish for the ability to demolish wall layers in a composite structure and in complex profiles.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267573#M139627</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T12:39:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267574#M139628</link>
      <description>well, just saw the "new" features video... this is going to get ugly</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:54:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267574#M139628</guid>
      <dc:creator>jl_lt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T12:54:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267575#M139629</link>
      <description>The EVEREST project was implemented to bring ArchiCAD to the pole position in the market, &lt;BR /&gt;
i can't see how this release can help in the project,</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:21:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267575#M139629</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ahmed_K</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T13:21:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267576#M139630</link>
      <description>Very weak release</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:42:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267576#M139630</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T13:42:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad 25</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267577#M139631</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;outpostarc wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
I am interested in the ability to find and work with elements between 2d and 3D.
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I tried this new feature and from 3D to 2D it works only if the layer is visible in 2D. The new command doesn't turn on the layer, so it is quite useless.  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_sad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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This is an embarrassing release.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 14:55:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-25/m-p/267577#M139631</guid>
      <dc:creator>henryL</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-07T14:55:38Z</dc:date>
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