topic Re: morph or slab with seo in Modeling

morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:33:04 GMT

I want to do a custom arch wall opening;
1. can a morph be shaped to a specified radius and cut into the wall?
2. any good video out there to show the SEO

thanks

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 01:06:43 GMT

You should be able to SEO anything from a wall.

You might need to be careful of the strengths for the Building Materials that you use as some elements will automatically connect based on the BM strength so will basically perform an automatic SEO.
I don't think morphs and wall do automatically connect though so you shouldn't have a problem with this.

Alternatively you can create a slab the shape you want and give it an ID of WALLHOLE.
Then save this slab as a window object and it will automatically be converted into an empty window hole of the shape you want.

If you need the actual window frames then you can model those as well (without an ID) and save it altogether as a window object.

Here is a link to instruction in Help Centre ...

http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/tips/archicad/library/how-to-create-custom-window/

Take note of the link at the bottom for custom shape windows.

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:21:55 GMT

Thanks Barry.
I created a model of the arch and save the view in the plan view as an object. I place the object on the project plan. I select it to show in 3d but it is not showing up. I am not sure what I am missing here...the slab that I created it before save it into a plan view object is showing but not the library part object....

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:51:52 GMT

We might need a few screen shots to see what you are doing.

Not sure if it mentioned in the help files but when creating objects / windows / doors it is best to work at the Project Origin so the newly created object is not displaced.
i.e. centre base of the window on the project origin.
Might be best to do in on the zero storey (storey 1 in the US version) as well so the height is not displaced.

Are you saving the slabs as an object or a window/door?
If a window/door then it will only place in a wall with the window/door tool.

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:54:37 GMT

Hmm... I drew the slab on the same storey level so the level is 0. And how do I create a slab at 0,0?

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:09:04 GMT

Llian wrote:
Hmm... I drew the slab on the same storey level so the level is 0. And how do I create a slab at 0,0?

Simply set you slab out at the Project origin (not user origin).
See attached image.

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:13:34 GMT

I see...project zero would be my Main Floor Level...I will give a try

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:04:18 GMT

I have success when I did it on a new archicad pln...where I created THE ARCH WALL as a library object and it shows up in 3D.

I wonder if it has to do with the Teamwork project. I used the same process but it is not showing up in the 3D.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:06:09 GMT

Barry wrote:
Llian wrote:
Hmm... I drew the slab on the same storey level so the level is 0. And how do I create a slab at 0,0?
Simply set you slab out at the Project origin (not user origin).
See attached image.

Barry.

Barry, where do I find the project zero?

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:16:00 GMT

Follow the cursor co-ordinates back to 0,0.

You will be best to reset the user origin to the default project origin (just in case you have a user origin set as this will register as 0,0 co-ords as well - so you need to remove it).

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:19:29 GMT

Barry wrote:
Follow the cursor co-ordinates back to 0,0.

You will be best to reset the user origin to the default project origin (just in case you have a user origin set as this will register as 0,0 co-ords as well - so you need to remove it).

Barry.

Yes, I did use that to set at the corner of the slab ...and save as the library part in 3D plan view and still not showing up in the project...but it shows when I drew on a new PLN but not on the Teamwork project pln.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:29:38 GMT

Sorry I have never used teamwork so won't be of much help here.

So you are saving the slab as an object and not a door or window?
If so I assume you can see your other objects in 3D (then it is not a 3D filter setting).
Is you 3D view using a different renovation filter maybe?

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:40:22 GMT

I have checked the renovation filter and it is NEW. I have done this before where I created a custom arch opening on a wall. I remember drawing the shape with the fill and then used the slab tool to create the shape into an object. I can't remember if I had to save it as an object. But I remember create a thicker slab than the wall and use the SEO to 'cut the opening' on the wall. I place the slab where the wall and adjusted the height of the slab on elevation....I am trying to find the video online that shows how to create a custom opening on the wall using SEO... still looking!

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:58:00 GMT

Try a renno filter that 'Shows All'

There is no need for saving as an object and the SEO.

Save as a door or window with ID = WALLHOLE.
Then place as door or window in your wall.
See image.

I am not sure about a video for SEO (check the YouTube channel in the HELP menu.
But if you create a slab for the SEO you will have to stand it up so will need to save as an object and then add ROTATE commands in the script.
Or convert to Morph and rotate it in 3D.
Then overlap the object/morph with the wall > SEO > subtract.

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 07:12:18 GMT

O My Goodness., Barry! Thank you so much. Is it that simple! I was just going into the Profile Manager and that was what I did before....but your method of saving this customize arch as a door opening just work on the wall! is this something new?

Re: morph or slab with seo

Llian — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 07:14:17 GMT

here is the image!

Re: morph or slab with seo

Barry Kelly — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 07:44:03 GMT

Nothing new.
It has been around for ages.
The WALLHOLE ID trick came in back at version 12 or 14 maybe.
Before that we had to edit the script manually.

Now if you need to you can add frames and glass.
Model exactly as you want them to be and set the correct building materials for them.
The bottom of your frame slab at zero 'z' height will be the front of the frame in the wall.
Everything above zero will be the depth of the frame.
Model below zero if you want something to stick out in front.

Just re-save as the same object if you need to amend anything.

Barry.

Re: morph or slab with seo

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:19:04 GMT

If it was just a simple arch you could have used one of the standard arch shapes in the door tool... but at least you learned something new