topic Re: The Graphisoft Story in Modeling

ArchiCAD and engineers

Anonymous — Sat, 09 May 2015 00:25:15 GMT

An interesting retrospective (symbolically referencing power house engineering)..but from my perspective sadly, you have done very little for real engineers. my2c

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 09 May 2015 01:28:58 GMT

DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
An interesting retrospective (symbolically referencing power house engineering)..but from my perspective sadly, you have done very little for real engineers. my2c

You have to know something: ARCHICAD has always been an application created by architects for architects.

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Anonymous — Sat, 09 May 2015 02:13:01 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
An interesting retrospective (symbolically referencing power house engineering)..but from my perspective sadly, you have done very little for real engineers. my2c
You have to know something: ARCHICAD has always been an application created by architects for architects.

Ha...Yes I do know that [let go of the past as BIM has moved onto ironically..Physics], as engineers we work within constraints and limltations that architects bind us to, but we shouldnt have to be making excuses for your software, in that you have FORGOTTEN EVERY ONE ELSE.
This is an area that Nem has to address..urgently

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Anonymous — Sat, 09 May 2015 03:24:30 GMT

Have you tried Revit?

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Bricklyne Clarence — Sat, 09 May 2015 04:57:46 GMT

DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
An interesting retrospective (symbolically referencing power house engineering)..but from my perspective sadly, you have done very little for real engineers. my2c
You have to know something: ARCHICAD has always been an application created by architects for architects.
Ha...Yes I do know that [let go of the past as BIM has moved onto ironically..Physics], as engineers we work within constraints and limltations that architects bind us to, but we shouldnt have to be making excuses for your software, in that you have FORGOTTEN EVERY ONE ELSE.
This is an area that Nem has to address..urgently

With all due respect, you probably shouldn't be using Architectural design software for engineering purposes (however much you might enjoy it), if it bothers you that it caters so much more to the intended end-users and how they think and work.

I mean, I wouldn't want to be using engineering software to design buildings and to work in Architecture neither and would expect to find a lot of quirks and oddities I wouldn't like working with, as an architect.

That's probably the (biggest) reason why I use ArchiCAD and not Revit*.

(*originally deeveloped as an engineering design software before being re-purposed for Architecture,.......and STILL works a lot like one, in many respects).

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2015 01:43:21 GMT

Well I might suggest soon you may be the odd one out
I dont differentiate nor discriminate between sales,design,engineering and construction.
With the first 3 our preferences is now VWs which i might add has addressed alot of my concerns with (REAL) engineering parametrics in the latest release. Construction Wds are done in A/C. Revit and simulations particulary are in their infancy.We have all software but use whats most appropriate for sales, presentations, Apps/sims & deals.

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Ralph Wessel — Mon, 11 May 2015 12:14:57 GMT

DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
Well I might suggest soon you may be the odd one out

This topic is about "The Graphisoft Story". If you have concerns about ArchiCAD's design or functionality, can you please start a new topic to discuss them specifically rather than piggy-backing onto other topics?

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2015 13:10:46 GMT

I would like to think the graphisoft story is still evolving and to say it's only for architects is not true as there are many builders using AC software above any other. I see no harm in a little nudge or push towards REAL Engineering and Data use.

Re: The Graphisoft Story

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 11 May 2015 17:45:25 GMT

Ralph wrote:
DesignEngineerBIM wrote:
Well I might suggest soon you may be the odd one out
This topic is about "The Graphisoft Story". If you have concerns about ArchiCAD's design or functionality, can you please start a new topic to discuss them specifically rather than piggy-backing onto other topics?

I've split these posts into this new thread. Thanks, Ralph. DesignEngineerBIM - please stay on topic, one topic per thread. If you want to continue this topic - here's the place - not the thread concerning the history of Graphisoft.

Re: ArchiCAD and engineers

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2015 22:00:16 GMT

Thanks Karl
I guess everyone (clients,architects ,engineers) sees their own importance differently and Mr Gabor Bojar certainly deserves respect and gratitude.