topic Re: Auto-update slowness in Modeling

Auto-update slowness

Martin Jules — Tue, 09 May 2023 13:43:04 GMT

ArchiCAD is too slow when working on complex architectural projects. The software updates anytime, and I have to wait up to 3 minutes for each update. Each change I make in the drawings corresponds to an update. Solving this issue may help Graphisoft find new clients in very competitive markets like Canada and USA for example.

Other important things are to make old tools like Morph, Curtain Wall, Column, Roof, etc. complete. There are too many incomplete tools in ArchiCAD, and this doesn't help during the architectural and urban design process.

Re: Auto-update slowness

jl_lt — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:48:41 GMT

Hi Mr Mjules, you can deactivate that annoying automatic updating and it definetely and significantly speeds things up.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Martin Jules — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:55:59 GMT

Jl_lt,

Surely? I would appreciate if you could tell me how to proceed to deactivate it. Is it through the work environment?

jl_lt wrote:
Hi Mr Mjules, you can deactivate that annoying automatic updating and it definetely and significantly speeds things up.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:10:13 GMT

Check out the "Update Auto-rebuild Model viewpoints continuously" checkbox in the "Model Rebuild Options" page of the "Work Environment" Dialog.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Martin Jules — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:11:21 GMT

I just see the features that might help me deactivate it from the work environment. I will try it. I never paid attention to that.

jl_lt wrote:
Hi Mr Mjules, you can deactivate that annoying automatic updating and it definetely and significantly speeds things up.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Martin Jules — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:12:44 GMT

Many thanks, Laszlo. I appreciate the information!

LaszloNagy wrote:
Check out the "Update Auto-rebuild Model viewpoints continuously" checkbox in the "Model Rebuild Options" page of the "Work Environment" Dialog.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Ahmed_K — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:06:33 GMT

8 GB of RAM and without SSD, for AC 24, that's not sufficient,
i'm running AC 24 on a NVME 2.0 , 32 GB of RAM and 6 GB graphics, without any problems,
heavy projects with structural elements imported from tekla ( heavy file )

Re: Auto-update slowness

Nader Belal — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:38:41 GMT

@Mjules

Just as @bouhmidage have said your PC specs are just too low, and for Windows reasons you need 32 GB, and preferabiliy 64.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Martin Jules — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 02:21:07 GMT

Thanks you all for your posts!

I'm going to change my computers and look forward to seeing change in ArchiCAD performance.

Re: Auto-update slowness

rob2218 — Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:08:45 GMT

the "hangup" by deactivating the "auto update" is that heaven forbid you are in a crunch and just go to publish the PDF set....and notice your views are NOT updated.....yer screwed.

Also...auto-update keeps everything current.

I don't know why there's even the ability to NOT auto-update.
silly in my opinion. you ALWAYS want your views...ALL your views...updated at all times.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:04:31 GMT

Rob,

We are actually talking about the Auto-Rebuild of Tabs.
We are not talking about Auto-Update of Views placed on Layouts as Drawings.

Re: Auto-update slowness

PVBergkrantz — Mon, 14 Jun 2021 16:12:57 GMT

rob2218 wrote:
the "hangup" by deactivating the "auto update" is that heaven forbid you are in a crunch and just go to publish the PDF set....and notice your views are NOT updated.....yer screwed.

Also...auto-update keeps everything current.

I don't know why there's even the ability to NOT auto-update.
silly in my opinion. you ALWAYS want your views...ALL your views...updated at all times.

If you are working with layouting stuff on multiple pages with a couple of facades on each, jumping between pages, moving text, etc its a big pain to have auto update on. But there should be a third option, "auto update on publish".

Re: Auto-update slowness

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:26:33 GMT

My "Best Practice" is to use the Drawing Manager to check the status of all Drawings and update them as necessary before publishing. That way it can be guaranteed that they will all display the latest state of the project, even if they are set to "Manual Update".

Re: Auto-update slowness

rob2218 — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:48:33 GMT

LaszloNagy wrote:
Rob,

We are actually talking about the Auto-Rebuild of Tabs.
We are not talking about Auto-Update of Views placed on Layouts as Drawings.

Ok, I see...I get it. the "tabs" that you have open at the time of your work session. I get it. Still......don't have so many tabs "open"....just keep the floor plan tab, or ONE elevation tab or ONE 3d tab and that's it....why have 12 to 16 tabs open for "when" you need to jump into them.....dunno but I've always found that those 'tabs' that are at the top are a bit distracting. Sure..you may say they are convenient but they take up a lot of resource power from your machine.

Re: Auto-update slowness

slavapolic — Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:34:06 GMT

Hi All,

I am having an issue as well, with the "drawing update" when on sheets of layout book. The views update as they always did, I do NOT want to ever have to use the manual update, for many of my own reasons.
However this feels like either an Archicad 25 problem or my new PC problem, as I havent had this issue on my old inferior pc, while using Archicad 24.

The current/new PC is a Dell Precision 7920 Tower XCTO Base with

Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4210R CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
64GB 4x16GB DDR4 2933MHz RDIMM ECC Memory
NVIDIA Quadro RTX4000, 8GB, 3DP, VirtualLink (XX20T)
and M.2 1TB PCIe NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive

Please help, this is extremely irritating, every new layout i open, i need to first stand by for a couple of minutes.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 10 Jun 2022 16:57:11 GMT

You activate a Layout and you have to wait for a couple of minutes for placed Drawings to update? That sound extremely long. Those placed Drawings should update within seconds, not minutes.

Can you show one such Layout and show how a Drawing that needs so much time to update looks like placed on that Layout?

Re: Auto-update slowness

slavapolic — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:48:30 GMT

Hi Laszlo,

not a couple of minutes (I exaggerated, apologies), however, more than 10 seconds. I dont want to be a primadonna but even 15-20 seconds is too long if you need to be shifting through a set of layouts, am i wrong? I dont have this issue on other pc's so Im hoping its just a matter of a hidden setting as this pc is superior on paper.

Re: Auto-update slowness

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 21 Jun 2022 20:50:06 GMT

What are those colorful things on the right side of the Layout? Are the schedules placed as Drawings on the Layout? If they are, I wonder if that is the cause of the slowness. Archicad probably has to regenerate the Schedules every time and then update.

If you want to investigate a little bit you can try things like:

1. Delete all Drawings that come from Schedules, and see how fast the update is.

2. Delete the Drawings that come from Floor Plans, and see how fast the update is.

That way you may find that one or the other causes most of the update time.

Also, you said that you don't have this issue on other computers. Are you saying that if you work on this exact same file on another computer with the same Archicad version, your Update times are much faster? If so, there is probably something specific to this computer that causes the slowness.