topic Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro in Modeling

Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Problem

Stress Co_ — Wed, 24 May 2023 06:41:12 GMT

See attached.
I can't figure out why my composite wall extends
beyond it's intersection.

It's effected by the sill plate in the Custom Profile foundation wall.

I've messed with Building Material priorities, but having no luck.
Any suggestions?

thanks,
marc

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

DGSketcher — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:34:59 GMT

I had this recently, took me ages to work it out as the results are almost random. Your problem will if I recall correctly be caused by overlapping the complex walls. It's not immediately obvious that this is the issue but once I squared of the top of my walls the problem stopped. The solution isn't ideal if you are trying to create an interlocking elemental / modular assembly but for now that was the only fix I could find.

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

Erich — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:32:48 GMT

It is a problem that Graphisoft is aware of. When I first ran into it GS North America said to look at altering the junction order of the walls. I found that doing so helps sort of. You do end up chasing the issue around a building quite a bit however.

Other ways I have used to fix the issue include SEO, convert to morph, patches, etc. None really acceptable.

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:19:56 GMT

Hi, I had a problem like this before, I solved with the layers intersections priority number. You could try that also. Make a different layer for each wall and make each one with different intersection number. Also if possible I would use the beam tool to make the complex profile (not sure if that will work but I'll try it)

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

Stress Co_ — Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:25:40 GMT

I think I've got it sorted.
Changing the "Junction Order" cleaned up the Composite wall in 3D...
but messed up the 2D wall junctions of the Custom Profile.

I cleaned that up by changing the priority number of the Custom Profile's Layer.

Haven't had time to see if it changed any PBC's in my sections.

Thank you all.

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

lukegolesh — Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:57:36 GMT

arqrivas wrote:
Hi, I had a problem like this before, I solved with the layers intersections priority number. You could try that also. Make a different layer for each wall and make each one with different intersection number. Also if possible I would use the beam tool to make the complex profile (not sure if that will work but I'll try it)

To me, this is the simplest and best solution. I don't know about you all, but as soon as I start changing the intersection number, I start chasing my tail and get problems later. This is simple/ clean/ works well, thanks so much! Note, it is best/ easiest to change the layer intersection number through "Attribute Manager" so that you can change it for all of the view layer combinations at the same time.

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Pro

lukegolesh — Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:02:02 GMT

lukegolesh wrote:

arqrivas wrote:
Hi, I had a problem like this before, I solved with the layers intersections priority number. You could try that also. Make a different layer for each wall and make each one with different intersection number. Also if possible I would use the beam tool to make the complex profile (not sure if that will work but I'll try it)
To me, this is the simplest and best solution. I don't know about you all, but as soon as I start changing the intersection number, I start chasing my tail and get problems later. This is simple/ clean/ works well, thanks so much! Note, it is best/ easiest to change the layer intersection number through "Attribute Manager" so that you can change it for all of the view layer combinations at the same time.

It has already been alluded to, but what I meant to say was that changing the *"junction order" is problematic, but grouping each floor's walls on a layer and then changing the layer intersection number to be different from each other works well. (And best to do this through Attribute Manager).

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Problem

Podolsky — Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:28:05 GMT

I might say, that problem here initially in the way how it been modelled. Complex profile represents concrete and wood on top as one element. And this is wrong. Concrete is poured on one stage and wooden sole plate in installed on top later - as part of the wall. It's probably wise to separate those elements. The wooden sole plate in reality is part on the wall, that goes on top of the concrete. That means you can have another complex profile for the wall that includes the wood in it, or model wooden element separately.
Technically why that glitch is happening - because of intersection of concrete foundation (complex profile wall) and upper wall reference lines. Notice that upper wall and lower wall are overlapping and not sitting on top of each other.
So, make your model clear from overlapping on z axis, separate concrete from wood.

Re: Custom Profile Wall intersection with Composite Wall Problem

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:10:31 GMT

From time to time I get this issue too. I found that sometimes if you invert the problematic wall direction it will fix this.
Hope this helps.