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Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Petros Ioannou — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:03:30 GMT

Hi Guys,
Just saw a job post for a BIM manager in Denmark and it states that BIG decided to use Revit as their main BIM tool.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

daviiiiidave — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 04:35:14 GMT

Sad story.

But i can relate to it. 2 weeks ago i had a student group introducing into AC21 and they showed me so many things in AC which are as they said, really really annoying. Mostly it was that every Tool has it own logic, which seems like there is no overall concept in AC. Its like every tool is made by a different person and then they are thrown together into one interface. and also some restrictions didnt make sense for them. they told me they will stay in revit. feels more comfortable. feels more modern. feels more suitable.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

TMA_80 — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 22:57:23 GMT

We could imagine that it is a logical step: as their other offices were, afaik, using Revit.

Still, if this is confirmed , either the Archicad Test period was not conclusive ( for them) OR they have insights on the future ( versions) of ArchiCAD that we don't.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Ernest Atanasiu — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:22:28 GMT

Who cares?

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

TMA_80 — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:11:04 GMT

Uisanata, you may have missed this :

http://www.graphisoft.com/users/bim-case-studies/BIG_BIM_for_the_concept_arch.html

it was a big deal at that time.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Ernest Atanasiu — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 21:02:33 GMT

It was indeed. What I mean is that GS should not take into account developing company specific software. If this is not suited for BIG, they still have the rest of us.
Who knows if they had a proper implementation and fully used all capabilities? For what I've seen, Revit is far behind in many aspects. Choosing Revit over Archicad seems like a marketing scam from 'you know who' and they used the lack of knowledge from BIG tech department.
It takes a lot of determination and will-power to steer a company that size towards Archicad, I'm talking from experience, within a company with only 25 people. Maybe they didn't have any? Who knows and who cares really? Do you use Archicad to copy their style only? I guess not.
Just my 2c

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Ernest Atanasiu — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:04:09 GMT

also:
http://www.graphisoft.com/info/news/press_releases/nikken-sekkei-graphisoft-extend-partnership.html

Number of personnel
Total：2640 Registered Japan 1st Class Architects: 1101 and 2nd Class Architects: 179
Nikken Sekkei Group Total As of April 1, 2017

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 14:03:25 GMT

Hi,

I'm not sure if they any of them. I suppose that in a big team with the global range you might stick with both programs.

Last November I was on the lecture of Jasper Anders form BIG and it seems they put a lot of effort to introduce AC in the company. Also, as far as I know, the inspire development of GS and RH connection. So it would be weird to ditch it so quickly.

Here link to lecture in EN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJeRiztvc3o

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:12:58 GMT

I was wondering: this ad says that they decided to drive all BIM processes with Revit as the main tool.
How does this mean that they completely abandon the use of ARCHICAD in their office?
Maybe Revit will be their main tool, but that does not mean that they will not continue using ARCHICAD as well to some degree.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Petros Ioannou — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:18:48 GMT

Laszlo, hence the questionmark on the topic title...

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:24:00 GMT

I totaly agree. After working in archicad for over 6 years now I would say that the developers have to stop adding more features. What the program seriously need is a cleanup and a serious focus on speed.
The amount of background updating and automated things the program does without letting the user have any control or understanding of what the heck is going on and why the program keeps pausing without the user doing anything at all is absolutely demolishing the program in my eyes.

daviiiiidave wrote:
Sad story.

But i can relate to it. 2 weeks ago i had a student group introducing into AC21 and they showed me so many things in AC which are as they said, really really annoying. Mostly it was that every Tool has it own logic, which seems like there is no overall concept in AC. Its like every tool is made by a different person and then they are thrown together into one interface. and also some restrictions didnt make sense for them. they told me they will stay in revit. feels more comfortable. feels more modern. feels more suitable.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:40:41 GMT

I would agree with the post above, there are so many things in the architalk 'wishes' section that should have been fixed about 10 versions ago, archicad seriously need to go back and fix a lot of fundamental things in the next archicad release that people have been harping on about for years a lot of it is simple stuff really
one simple example why have they still not added background fills for beams etc..

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Anonymous — Sun, 08 Jul 2018 20:47:14 GMT

Bjarke Ingels was named recently Chief Architect by the WeWork group, which is emerging as a major league player in real estate. I suspect that WeWork's main BIM platform is Revit. So it only makes sense that Bjarke embrace Revit for strategic reasons.

Re: Bjarke Ingels Group ditching ArchiCAD?

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 00:35:31 GMT

If I remember correctly WeWork uses RVT in house they bought CASE who was a RVT consultancy firm.