topic Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section in Modeling

Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:26:11 GMT

I have placed these TJI beams in a plan view and they don't show on any stories with the layer on, but they all show on the section. I am baffled as to why. I have tried changing many settings. Any suggestions?

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:19:48 GMT

I am having problems with the beam tool. I just placed another generic rectangular beam that will not show in any layouts. A warning said that it will be placed on another story other than the one I drew it. but it is not on another story. all layers are on. It shows in section and 3D.

I am convinced there is a setting that I am overlooking. Please help.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Lingwisyer — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 01:23:56 GMT

Are they set to Projected w/ Overhead?

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 17:34:24 GMT

And... were they placed with the Beam Tool, or with the Object Tool?

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:52:25 GMT

They were placed with the beam tool. I found a beam that was showing on plan correctly and grabbed sucked up its parameters and changed to the TJI profile and that worked. Then I looked at the parameters of the beam that would not show on plan and manually changed them to be the same as the one that did show on plan, BUT that did not help. I carefully went through all the settings that I could see from the beam tool and all were identical, yet one beam shows on plan while the other does not. Using the eye-dropper tool and injecting the invisible beam would fix it. There must be a hidden parameter that is causing the difference? IDK. Maybe I can export the two sets of beams and upload the file, Monday, for others to mess with.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:33:07 GMT

Does the beam show in one plan view and not in another, or in the same plan view?
If it is showing and not showing in different plan views, check the "Floor Plan Cut Plane" definitions for each view.
If it is showing and not showing in the same plan vies, check the story associated with each beam.
Hope that helps.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:01:56 GMT

Braza wrote:
Does the beam show in one plan view and not in another, or in the same plan view?
If it is showing and not showing in different plan views, check the "Floor Plan Cut Plane" definitions for each view.
If it is showing and not showing in the same plan vies, check the story associated with each beam.
Hope that helps.

The beams that show and not show are in the same plane and elevation and nothing I do to change plan view settings will show the hidden beams in plan.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:47:50 GMT

I have the plan file in simplified form and reduced in size for any one to look at. I hope the link works. I am likely overlooking something simple. I know I can suck-up parameters and inject them into the beams working to make them visible on the plan, but I wanted to know what might be causing this problem.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17r1f_CqSOlAVgJEZ9IfihjhukUQvY7xa?usp=sharing

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Barry Kelly — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 12:06:08 GMT

Have you checked the Floor Plan Display options as Ling suggested?

Barry.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:16:59 GMT

Barry wrote:
Have you checked the Floor Plan Display options as Ling suggested?

Barry.

I did.
There are Four sections in the Beam Tool Selection Settings window that control the Beam Properties that effect its visibility and the fifth one is just for Classification information.

-Beam
-Segment
-Hole
-Floor Plan and Section

Of these four sections, the information filled in for both the visible and invisible beams is identical. AND the Renovation status is set to "New Construction" for both.

Both beams show in the section. Both beams have the same Home Story. Both beams have the same elevation. There is virtually nothing different about both beams accept one shows on the floor plan and one does not. They of course have different IFC Property IDs as does every object. But other than that, they are the same.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Lingwisyer — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:26:04 GMT

4hotshoes wrote:
I have the plan file in simplified form and reduced in size for any one to look at. I hope the link works. I am likely overlooking something simple. I know I can suck-up parameters and inject them into the beams working to make them visible on the plan, but I wanted to know what might be causing this problem.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17r1f_CqSOlAVgJEZ9IfihjhukUQvY7xa?usp=sharing

No permissions

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:30:58 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:

4hotshoes wrote:
I have the plan file in simplified form and reduced in size for any one to look at. I hope the link works. I am likely overlooking something simple. I know I can suck-up parameters and inject them into the beams working to make them visible on the plan, but I wanted to know what might be causing this problem.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17r1f_CqSOlAVgJEZ9IfihjhukUQvY7xa?usp=sharing

No permissions

I am not sure if I can fix that. What other options do others use to post a plan file?

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 01:40:20 GMT

No permissions
I am not sure if I can fix that. What other options do others use to post a plan file?

I found a way to open permissions to anyone with the link. Try again.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Lingwisyer — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 02:22:12 GMT

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17r1f_CqSOlAVgJEZ9IfihjhukUQvY7xa?usp=sharing

Their Floor Plan Display was different and would have prevented them from showing, BUT, even after correction, and changing the Overhead line pen from the default white, the beams did not show up in plan...

It would appear to be a bug. I changed the Floor Plan Display to All Relevant Floors and they show up. Changed it back to Home Story Only, and they remain visible.

Ling.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

4hotshoes — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 23:01:46 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17r1f_CqSOlAVgJEZ9IfihjhukUQvY7xa?usp=sharing

Their Floor Plan Display was different and would have prevented them from showing, BUT, even after correction, and changing the Overhead line pen from the default white, the beams did not show up in plan...

It would appear to be a bug. I changed the Floor Plan Display to All Relevant Floors and they show up. Changed it back to Home Story Only, and they remain visible.

Ling.

If this appears to be a bug, have you reported this, or do I need to?

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Lingwisyer — Wed, 15 Jan 2020 01:28:42 GMT

Whelp. I did not report it at the time, but I shall now. If you already have, oh well, more pressure for them.

Ling.

Re: Beam not showing on any plans but will show in section

Lingwisyer — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 06:55:04 GMT

When you report a bug, and they reply with part of your solution that you included with the report...