topic Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released in Modeling

ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Daniel Kovacs — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 14:31:27 GMT

Dear All,

Today we have made the preview version of our next ARCHICAD, BIM Server and BIMcloud 21 Updates available. We have tested the packages with the AUS, INT, NZE, UKI and USA versions so far and they all passed our Quality Control.

This package is only compatible with the above language versions. If you attempt to install it on a different language version, you will get an error message about this.

We will create a Public update compatible with all language versions in a few weeks time. If the two will differ, it will be possible to update from the Preview package to the Public one without a problem.

You can read the Release Notes and download the packages from here:

Regards,

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

SenecaDesignLLC — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 21:08:38 GMT

I have been having serious issues with the railing tool since the update.

2018-03-30-23-07-48-8176 bug id

edit:
I can reproduce a crash on multiple files it seems to be the railing plus roofs. I do use a modified library, however i do not or have not modified the railing tool objects. 5021 had no issues with this

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:12:59 GMT

DWG Translator comes up blank and the only way to exit is to force quit AC

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Richard Morrison — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 21:38:53 GMT

I just tried opening the DWG Translator on my Window machine to see if I got the same result, and my outcome was a crash/bug reporter. I can understand some exotic sequence of keystrokes causing a crash, but is it really too much to expect that GS would try each of the basic menu commands to see if it works before labeling testing "complete"?

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

DGSketcher — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 22:47:37 GMT

Dragging dimension text placed "within line" moves the text but leaves the broken dimension lines.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:36:02 GMT

Same her opening the DWG Translator on my Window machine: a crash/bug reporter.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Barry Kelly — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 00:19:04 GMT

DGSketcher wrote:
Dragging dimension text placed "within line" moves the text but leaves the broken dimension lines.

Hasn't Archicad always done this?

Barry.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

DGSketcher — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:38:35 GMT

Barry, I have checked back and as you have indicated it would appear to be a legacy issue. Not sure why I've just picked up on it, perhaps the complexity of dimensions on my current project. I still think it's something that needs fixed. These kind of basic bugs should have been eradicated a long time ago...

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Daniel Kovacs — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:57:55 GMT

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
I have been having serious issues with the railing tool since the update.

2018-03-30-23-07-48-8176 bug id

edit:
I can reproduce a crash on multiple files it seems to be the railing plus roofs. I do use a modified library, however i do not or have not modified the railing tool objects. 5021 had no issues with this

Hi,

Could you elaborate on this a little bit? I tried to reproduce it by placing a roof and a railing associated on it, but it didn't crash for me. I would need to reproduce it in order to fix it.

What platform are you on? Windows 10?
What are the steps you have to make to reproduce the crash?
When does it crash? when placing a railing? When editing its settings?
Could you send me a file that you can reproduce it with (in a PM), and also tell me the exact steps I have to make in the file to reproduce it?

Thanks,

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Daniel Kovacs — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:00:58 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
DWG Translator comes up blank and the only way to exit is to force quit AC

Richard wrote:
I just tried opening the DWG Translator on my Window machine to see if I got the same result, and my outcome was a crash/bug reporter...

Hi guys,

Thanks for the report! I don't know how we missed this, but I will make sure we fix this before the release.

Thanks,

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Richard Morrison — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:59:36 GMT

dkovacs wrote:
Thanks for the report! I don't know how we missed this, but I will make sure we fix this before the release.

Thanks,

Personally, I would find it helpful to know if there is an easier way to roll back the installation to the previous version than doing an uninstall/reinstall/update. This is a huge time waster. If so, it should be posted in "Help."

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 22:49:56 GMT

dkovacs wrote:
SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
I have been having serious issues with the railing tool since the update.

2018-03-30-23-07-48-8176 bug id

edit:
I can reproduce a crash on multiple files it seems to be the railing plus roofs. I do use a modified library, however i do not or have not modified the railing tool objects. 5021 had no issues with this
Hi,

Could you elaborate on this a little bit? I tried to reproduce it by placing a roof and a railing associated on it, but it didn't crash for me. I would need to reproduce it in order to fix it.

What platform are you on? Windows 10?
What are the steps you have to make to reproduce the crash?
When does it crash? when placing a railing? When editing its settings?
Could you send me a file that you can reproduce it with (in a PM), and also tell me the exact steps I have to make in the file to reproduce it?

Thanks,

I am on mac osx high sierra, It must be my file or something with my library. I completely uninstalled archicad and reinstalled it and still the same issue in all my files. I will try one more time otherwise i will have to send my library and a file.

If i place a railing associative or not for more than three consecutive clicks it crashes, if i modify a roof that has it attached it crashes, literally any modification i do to the railing crashes. I will update once i have tried again

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 23:54:58 GMT

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
dkovacs wrote:
SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
I have been having serious issues with the railing tool since the update.

2018-03-30-23-07-48-8176 bug id

edit:
I can reproduce a crash on multiple files it seems to be the railing plus roofs. I do use a modified library, however i do not or have not modified the railing tool objects. 5021 had no issues with this
Hi,

Could you elaborate on this a little bit? I tried to reproduce it by placing a roof and a railing associated on it, but it didn't crash for me. I would need to reproduce it in order to fix it.

What platform are you on? Windows 10?
What are the steps you have to make to reproduce the crash?
When does it crash? when placing a railing? When editing its settings?
Could you send me a file that you can reproduce it with (in a PM), and also tell me the exact steps I have to make in the file to reproduce it?

Thanks,
I am on mac osx high sierra, It must be my file or something with my library. I completely uninstalled archicad and reinstalled it and still the same issue in all my files. I will try one more time otherwise i will have to send my library and a file.

If i place a railing associative or not for more than three consecutive clicks it crashes, if i modify a roof that has it attached it crashes, literally any modification i do to the railing crashes. I will update once i have tried again

I Think i have narrowed it down to a custom profile for the rail inside the segment settings. I tried to set another railing and it was fine, and even had no issues with changing to a custom profile. but if i place a railing with a custom profile that seems to be the cause of the crash. sometimes when i place it, sometimes when i modify it. no issues on 5021.

most recent sent bug id . 2018-04-05-01-52-30-7913

I did all of this in a clean file but with my favorites loaded my library loaded and three custom profiles. it took about 5 or 6 attempts of editing before it actually crashed. I have not been able to get it to crash with any of the default archicad items. it seems that it must be something with my setup and custom profiles in railing

I have to revert now back to 5021 but let me know what else or how else i can help, Hopefully someone else is having this issue and its not just my stuff...

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Barry Kelly — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:59:09 GMT

Richard wrote:
Personally, I would find it helpful to know if there is an easier way to roll back the installation to the previous version than doing an uninstall/reinstall/update. This is a huge time waster. If so, it should be posted in "Help."

When I remember, I duplicate (copy) the Archicad program folder and then re-name it with the original build.
Then update the program.
If I ever need to go back I can just manually run the version I want or I can rename the folders to have the one I want run automatically (i.e. associated with PLN file type).

Barry.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

SenecaDesignLLC — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:58:00 GMT

Barry wrote:
Richard wrote:
Personally, I would find it helpful to know if there is an easier way to roll back the installation to the previous version than doing an uninstall/reinstall/update. This is a huge time waster. If so, it should be posted in "Help."
When I remember, I duplicate (copy) the Archicad program folder and then re-name it with the original build.
Then update the program.
If I ever need to go back I can just manually run the version I want or I can rename the folders to have the one I want run automatically (i.e. associated with PLN file type).

Barry.

i am going to try this with mac now. this will make testing things so much nicer!!!!

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

SenecaDesignLLC — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 02:35:38 GMT

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
Barry wrote:
Richard wrote:
Personally, I would find it helpful to know if there is an easier way to roll back the installation to the previous version than doing an uninstall/reinstall/update. This is a huge time waster. If so, it should be posted in "Help."
When I remember, I duplicate (copy) the Archicad program folder and then re-name it with the original build.
Then update the program.
If I ever need to go back I can just manually run the version I want or I can rename the folders to have the one I want run automatically (i.e. associated with PLN file type).

Barry.
i am going to try this with mac now. this will make testing things so much nicer!!!!

I can confirm that this works on mac as well. A simple folder rename and you can toggle between any version respectively.

Edit:
I did however have to go back and change my default to the previous version for opening apps

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Richard Morrison — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:27:11 GMT

Barry wrote:
When I remember, I duplicate (copy) the Archicad program folder and then re-name it with the original build.
Then update the program.
If I ever need to go back I can just manually run the version I want or I can rename the folders to have the one I want run automatically (i.e. associated with PLN file type).

Barry.

Thanks, Barry! Although I guess I'm surprised that such a basic approach would work. I always assumed that there would be stuff buried in the Registry or User Data files somewhere that would cause problems.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 18:24:17 GMT

and here's another bug.
Open AC
Select Browse for Solo Project
When Finder Window opens hit cancel
AC will freeze.
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I expect that I should get Beta Points for testing this.
Last time I install a preview version

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

DGSketcher — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:32:35 GMT

Has the QA manager at GSHQ retired? AC is becoming exponentially buggy. Not those bugs that crash and you know something went wrong, but a steady stream of irritations and display errors. I just swapped a composite wall type, at which point the door in the wall has changed the zero value I had for "Sill to wall base" to 2040mm so the door is now through the roof. I have a layout that won't recognise the drawing extents to do "Fit to frame" correctly, the whole of the drawing is displayed correctly, but the layout frame is smaller!?. The same view settings work fine on other layouts. I am also getting intermittent wall connection failures where simple composite wall corner connections stop working on plan. And finally automatic dimensions which are sufficiently unstable e.g. moving and vanishing nodes that have forced me to question whether I can trust the "automatic" mode.

Come on GS you can do better than this and you need to with Revit breathing down you neck!

Rant over... for now.

Re: ARCHICAD 21 Update 6000 Preview released

Daniel Kovacs — Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:44:05 GMT

SenecaDesignLLC wrote:
I have been having serious issues with the railing tool since the update.

2018-03-30-23-07-48-8176 bug id

edit:
I can reproduce a crash on multiple files it seems to be the railing plus roofs. I do use a modified library, however i do not or have not modified the railing tool objects. 5021 had no issues with this

Hello All,

Luckily with the help of your feedback we could track down the source of this crash, and fix it. In the final version this crash shouldn't be present. Please let me know if you happen to experience the same crash with the final version anyways!

Regards,