topic Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots in Modeling

Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 14:11:22 GMT

Can someone tell me what hotspots do when creating a symbol fill? I've looked in the online documentation and can't find an example of their role in making a fill?

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Erwin Edel — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 14:37:22 GMT

I think they define the 'boundary' of the rectangle of your symbol fill.

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 15:45:24 GMT

I guess this would be a supplemental question. Is there a way to get a graphic override to engage or simulate the "Fit to Skin" effect of a Symbol Fill? I'm still trying to create fills that behave as lines for use in a GO that alters plans for a Fire Separation Diagram. These have to be graphic because the drawings cannot be printed in colour and that a simple pallet of vectorial poché overrides would likely be confusing to the Municipal Authority reviewing the documents.

I want to use GOs to avoid draughting poly lines over the walls.

Arghhhhhh.

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:27:34 GMT

Hi Aaron,
I just saw the other day your other Fill that behaves like a line.
I also gave it a try, but like you I got no luck. The thing is that you need this fill to be "Fit to skin" and you can only define it inside BM. The GO only overrides the wall fills, not its BM. I think this one will go to the Wish Section. Perhaps a fill GO option with a "Fit to skin" option similar to the BM setting dialog. Like this:

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 18:19:23 GMT

Hey Braza,

That would be a BIG Wishlist item. I have no workaround for this as we cannot publish coloured drawings and a Grayscale ramp of values would never, ever work.

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 09:28:03 GMT

Aaron wrote:
I have no workaround for this as we cannot publish coloured drawings and a Grayscale ramp of values would never, ever work.

Yes. I have imagined it. So the only solution for now is the line/polyline way. How are you managing this? Placing individual lines one by one?
If so, I think you could at least streamline this process by:
1. While in plan, make a copy of all the walls with the same fire rating and drag it to a clear location;
2. Use the "Modify Wall Reference Line..." > Edit Reference Line > Center;
3. Set zero width to all of them;
4. Explode and group them;
5. Use the "Linework Consolidation..." command to eliminate overlapping and segmented lines;
6. Change the remain lines to the proper Symbol Line;
7. Finally, move it to the previous location over the original walls.

Hope this helps.

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Aaron Bourgoin — Fri, 09 Jul 2021 12:37:19 GMT

Thanks Braza. I appreciate all the responses, even if they're workarounds.

Sad face. Graphisoft?

Re: Symbol Fill Creation and Hotspots

Podolsky — Sun, 11 Jul 2021 12:53:50 GMT

The solution in this thread:

https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=73963&start=10