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    <title>topic Re: Curtain walls editing in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281878#M145891</link>
    <description>Paul,&lt;BR /&gt;
Do a search for the Grid object and try it out.  I don't know if your engineer will be able to edit it but its flexible and fairly easy to manipulate.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2015 12:51:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>luciant</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-07-09T12:51:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Curtain walls editing</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281877#M145890</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;Hi - I am having a lot of trouble with editing curtain walls;&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am using the curtain wall tool to make a suspended ceiling , but while I am dragging the grid origin around I cannot seem to snap to anything outside the grid object - which is the only practical way to achieve the alignments I am looking for&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am also having a lot of trouble space clicking to form holes in the middle of the ceiling, even though I can space click to create the outer boundary of the ceiling.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The process of manually creating a hole by deleting and dragging transoms and mullions around in the ceiling grid, as required for the hole to align with elements outside the ceiling (i.e. walls etc) is excruciating.&lt;BR /&gt;
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There is also an unexplained reference line offset in plan from edge of  ceiling, even though the offset is set to zero in object properties.&lt;BR /&gt;
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How can I overcome all the above?&lt;BR /&gt;
Is there a better tool for creating ceilings, complete with holes &amp;amp; with light fittings and other panel types  etc that move with the ceiling grid origin?&lt;BR /&gt;
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Whatever tool I use will need to be editable by the HVAC engineer on the job, who wants to sign in to the teamwork model &amp;amp; run his ducts, position extracts grilles etc though the ceiling.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Any help very gratefully received!&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 14:21:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281877#M145890</guid>
      <dc:creator>Paul King</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-23T14:21:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Curtain walls editing</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281878#M145891</link>
      <description>Paul,&lt;BR /&gt;
Do a search for the Grid object and try it out.  I don't know if your engineer will be able to edit it but its flexible and fairly easy to manipulate.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2015 12:51:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281878#M145891</guid>
      <dc:creator>luciant</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-09T12:51:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Curtain walls editing</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281879#M145892</link>
      <description>&lt;A href="https://bimcomponents.com/GSM/Details/14843" target="_blank"&gt;https://bimcomponents.com/GSM/Details/14843&lt;/A&gt; / &lt;A href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UTcXHgfDi4&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UTcXHg ... e=youtu.be"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UTcXHgfDi4&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;A href="https://bimobject.com/nl/product/?freetext=ceiling&amp;amp;filetypeid=6&amp;amp;contenttypeid=176" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="https://bimobject.com/nl/product/?freet ... typeid=176"&gt;https://bimobject.com/nl/product/?freetext=ceiling&amp;amp;filetypeid=6&amp;amp;contenttypeid=176&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Both offer some solutions for suspended ceilings.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2015 13:42:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281879#M145892</guid>
      <dc:creator>Erwin Edel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-09T13:42:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Curtain walls editing</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281880#M145893</link>
      <description>Thanks guys.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I certainly found some good detailed ceiling objects on BimObject - though nothing that integrates light fittings, grilles, sprinklers etc, allows holes, missing tiles etc, etc&lt;BR /&gt;
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A generic but much more versatile object seems to be the ManuBIM Ceiling Editor object &lt;A href="http://www.manubim.com/en/content/ceiling-editor-v2" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.manubim.com/en/content/ceiling-editor-v2&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
- though I found 3D bugs with the grid when running it under AC18 (it seems to have been written for AC16)</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:16:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Curtain-walls-editing/m-p/281880#M145893</guid>
      <dc:creator>Paul King</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-09T14:16:30Z</dc:date>
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