topic Re: Brick bonding on Archicad in Modeling

Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2023 13:49:25 GMT

is there a way to do a brick bonding plan on archicad? when i need to use structural wall on my projects i always do it manually, but i would like to know if there is a way to do it faster with parameters or something. i already searched for this topic but i couldn't find anything - or maybe i just don't know how to write it correctly to find something. thank you!

ps: i'm not sure if the sentence is correct, since english is not my first language. what i mean to say is how to do this:

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Erwin Edel — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 07:45:43 GMT

Our local reseller has made some dimensioning objects for this purpose that follow the typical method of documentation here, maybe check with your reseller if they have any tips / methods for this.

Can't say I've ever drafted the individual blocks. Nor do I know of any bricklayers that would bother to look at a drawing with individual blocks.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:13 GMT

You can create a symbol fill with your brick/block top view dimensions, apply it to a Building Material and set its orientation to "Fit to skin". Then in your floor plan, set your Partial Structure Display to "Core only". Finally you will have to set the origins of your walls to match your project specifications.
Haven't tried this, but I think it could do the trick.
Hope this helps.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:49:48 GMT

Erwin wrote:
Our local reseller has made some dimensioning objects for this purpose that follow the typical method of documentation here, maybe check with your reseller if they have any tips / methods for this.

Can't say I've ever drafted the individual blocks. Nor do I know of any bricklayers that would bother to look at a drawing with individual blocks.

oh, i see! in my case, i don't have any contact with archicad resellers in brazil, but i'll search about this. thank you for the answer! i made this topic because i'm doing an budget (?) project - i don't really know how to say this in english - for uni and my professor asked for the brick bonding.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:05:34 GMT

Braza wrote:
You can create a symbol fill with your brick/block top view dimensions, apply it to a Building Material and set its orientation to "Fit to skin". Then in your floor plan, set your Partial Structure Display to "Core only". Finally you will have to set the origins of your walls to match your project specifications.
Haven't tried this, but I think it could do the trick.
Hope this helps.

thank you! i tried doing this and it worked! the only problem is that i need to know when i can use bigger or smaller bricks to fill the wall completely, since the symbol fill only uses a specific size of brick repeatly.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Erwin Edel — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:34:36 GMT

Simple brick bonds typically are dimensioned in 'heads' here in the Netherlands. This is the header of a brick plus the mortar in between. The bricks are 100x210x50 mm typically, meaning you have repeating pattern of 110 mm (the 'head') adding and substracting 10 mm for the joints where needed. You just write the amount of 'heads' or 'heads' plus or minus the joint below the dimensions. Again no bricklayer is going to lay down a drawing and count all the individual bricks you drafted. They just want to know at a glance how many bricks are needed for a wall and the openings and so on.

Maybe in Brazil things work different of course... but in my experience it is ussually the professors who have no idea about actual building practice

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

vdentello — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:40:12 GMT

I do it with GDL objects and the Array function. Coding all the blocks in a single element makes it harder for "decisions" like wall joinings.
Plus, it won't allow easy selection of individual blocks for mapping like I had to do.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:47:05 GMT

Nice vdentello!

vdentello wrote:
I do it with GDL objects and the Array function.

You mean the multiply command, right?
Yes, your solution seems more efficient.

Erwin wrote:
Nor do I know of any bricklayers that would bother to look at a drawing with individual blocks

Yes. Here in Europe this seems surreal, but in countries like Brazil, Architects must be prepared to produce construction documents for self construction projects. I think this is the intent of the exercise. More like Ikea instructions.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 21:52:05 GMT

vdentello wrote:
I do it with GDL objects and the Array function. Coding all the blocks in a single element makes it harder for "decisions" like wall joinings.
Plus, it won't allow easy selection of individual blocks for mapping like I had to do.

yes!! this is what i usually do when i need to use structural walls on my projects. i just thought that maybe there would be a solution using the property manager or something that would make my life easier haha but i guess it can't be helped. at least doing it one by one can be a really good way to learn some things about building practice.

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Erwin Edel — Thu, 01 Oct 2020 06:25:04 GMT

Braza wrote:
Yes. Here in Europe this seems surreal, but in countries like Brazil, Architects must be prepared to produce construction documents for self construction projects. I think this is the intent of the exercise. More like Ikea instructions.

Ouch, talk about billable hours for producing drawings like that

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Oct 2020 09:22:59 GMT

Erwin wrote:
Ouch, talk about billable hours for producing drawings like that

If I well remember there is/was a say in Brazil that is something like this: "What is a fart, when you are all cover in sh*t"

Re: Brick bonding on Archicad

vdentello — Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:39:17 GMT

vanessa-santos wrote:

vdentello wrote:
I do it with GDL objects and the Array function. Coding all the blocks in a single element makes it harder for "decisions" like wall joinings.
Plus, it won't allow easy selection of individual blocks for mapping like I had to do.

yes!! this is what i usually do when i need to use structural walls on my projects. i just thought that maybe there would be a solution using the property manager or something that would make my life easier haha but i guess it can't be helped. at least doing it one by one can be a really good way to learn some things about building practice.

It won't take that long!
The main issue is: stick to the grid. When we do these projects we never do anything in-between 15 or 12,5 which is the block modulation. Then it's just multiplying and doing the changes needed. For example, a batroom has 120 or 135 inside. It will be sized in modular increments.
These are fairly low-cost houses, every custom block tends to be add a managing issue, so, the simpler, the better.

Braza wrote:

Erwin wrote:
Ouch, talk about billable hours for producing drawings like that
If I well remember there is/was a say in Brazil that is something like this: "What is a fart, when you are all cover in sh*t"

That's the saying!
Could be "If you're in the rain, you know you're about to get soaked. So, just go on", that's more SFW but same meaning. There are a couple more