topic Re: Archicad 25 and GSID in Modeling

Archicad 25 and GSID

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 10:02:42 GMT

I'm curious how everyone is authenticating Archicad 25 in an office environment.
I understand that every installation needs to be authenticated but I don't see the sense in registering a GSID for each user (20) and I don't want to use my ID since everyone could then access my details and services, regardless of the sensitivity. I'm thinking of registering a new account with a password known to all. I could then enter the company name in the details but of course anyone could change this.
Your thoughts.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

hybrid — Sun, 01 Aug 2021 13:52:40 GMT

Have you viewed this link?
https://graphisoft.com/support/graphisoftid/manage-licenses/

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 08:13:09 GMT

It's not a matter of licensing, we have updated hardware keys. It's about program authentication.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

insideru — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 20:22:43 GMT

I keep my HW key in my monitor's USB hub. Sometimes, i have to take my laptop on the field. Sometimes, i forget the damn key, like today. Is there any way i can benefit from this somehow, to be able to run AC for a few hours/month without a HW key plugged in?

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Lingwisyer — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 04:36:27 GMT

subatomic wrote:
It's about program authentication.

You can no longer just plug a key in and go? Not using AC25... Or are you talking about a hardware multikey plugged into a server? In which case, the Codemeter driver does not find your server?

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Barry Kelly — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 05:22:22 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
You can no longer just plug a key in and go?

Only for a limited time (I'm not sure exactly how long that is).
From 25, you will now be asked to sign in with your Graphisoft ID the first time you use it.
If you don't have a Graphisoft ID, you can create one.

If you don't sign in, it will run, but there will be a grace period.
When that expires you are stuck in demo mode until you then sign in with Graphisoft ID.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Lingwisyer — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:14:28 GMT

Well, before you go make create a shared user, does this affect the Modified By, etc and teamwork user info? ie. Instead of pulling the computer user, it uses the GSID instead.

Ling.

ps. Wonder if this new req is part of the GS resell and sharing stance...

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:54:20 GMT

Dear All,

Thank you very much for the questions and I am very sorry for the misunderstanding with this new function.

First, let me clarify it by saying: authentication Archicad with Graphisoft ID does not modify your licensing. This new authentication process is introduced with Archicad 25 to give you more personalized experience. The process is explained here.

To prepare for this new process, we have created a new FAQ document. This article will answer most of your questions regarding Graphisoft ID.

If there is anything unclear or if you have any questions, feel free to ask me!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 10:45:47 GMT

What, if I don't want the "easy way" GS request from me?

Here ist written "free" https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/136555/
3rd. sentence.

Please do explain how I can decide "free" to accept your "offer"!

Regards
Ma_Scht

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:12:25 GMT

I find the creation of a remote "kill switch" very troubling. If I am getting this right you need to sign with an ID or AC will stop working within 30 days even if your licenses are all up to date.
What happens if by some chance AC fails to connect to the server to validate?
For example; after hurricane María my office was offline for almost 3 months.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:52:01 GMT

Hi Eduardo,

I totally understand the concern. However, its mechanism works like this:

- Once you authenticate Archicad, the token is stored. You won't need to verify every time Archicad starts.

- If you don't have internet connection when you first start Archicad, there's no need for authentication. Archicad 25 will simply work as previous versions.

Please let me know if there is anything unclear!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:55:27 GMT

That clears everything up.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:09:21 GMT

From my point, nothing is clear and it is NOT free or can I de-authenticate Archicad and then start AC25 WITHOUT internet connection?
I guess I know your answer, if I get one.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:19:30 GMT

Hi Mario,

Sorry for the frustration that you are having!

Regarding the article, Graphisoft ID is a free account means that you can create as many accounts as needed. It may or may not connect directly to licensing operations. On the other hand, the authentication process in Archicad 25 does not affect how licensing works.

To better understand your problem, could you please clarify the situation you are having?

Looking forward to hearing from you!
Best regards,
Minh

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:23:17 GMT

Lingwisyer wrote:
Well, before you go make create a shared user, does this affect the Modified By, etc and teamwork user info? ie. Instead of pulling the computer user, it uses the GSID instead.

Ling.

ps. Wonder if this new req is part of the GS resell and sharing stance...

Hi Ling,

Sorry I missed your question!

As far as I know, the Graphisoft ID authentication should not affect Teamwork operations in Archicad 25. Basically, there's no change in Teamwork regarding Graphisoft ID.

As I mentioned, the aim of Graphisoft ID is to provide personalized services, thus it won't have a big impact on licensing in the near future.

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

insideru — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:42:01 GMT

I have a HW licence key (dongle).
Can i somehow store it in the "cloud" so i can use AC anywhere i am? I stated previously that my dongle is hooked up to my office USB hub, i never take it with me. This sound VERY interesting and i would sell my soul to the GS devil if i could use my license from time to time without the actual dongle.

I am stuck with dongles for all licenses we own in the office, even tho i tried to tell my reseller that i would like software ones. Not to mention that during lockdown, i was stuck @ home and i had my dongle in the office, i emailed them to give me an emergency 30 day key and they denied my request.

This whole HW key is so frustrating and so 90s. I would like to use my license(s) anywhere i am, as long as i have a computer and an internet connection. If my internet connection fails, then i can fall back to using the good ol' dongle.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:51:19 GMT

insideru wrote:
I have a HW licence key (dongle).
Can i somehow store it in the "cloud" so i can use AC anywhere i am? I stated previously that my dongle is hooked up to my office USB hub, i never take it with me. This sound VERY interesting and i would sell my soul to the GS devil if i could use my license from time to time without the actual dongle.

I am stuck with dongles for all licenses we own in the office, even tho i tried to tell my reseller that i would like software ones. Not to mention that during lockdown, i was stuck @ home and i had my dongle in the office, i emailed them to give me an emergency 30 day key and they denied my request.

This whole HW key is so frustrating and so 90s. I would like to use my license(s) anywhere i am, as long as i have a computer and an internet connection. If my internet connection fails, then i can fall back to using the good ol' dongle.

Hello,

That's very unfortunate!

Unfortunately, the Graphisoft ID is not capable of actual "cloud licensing" yet. But that's definitely in our roadmap!

Regarding your situation with the license, I would like to continue the conversation in private, as I would need some personal data for further investigation.

Thank you very much for raising the issue with me! Talk soon!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:58:21 GMT

Dear Mr. Minh Nguyen,
GS is catching big data, that's my problem. That's none of your business!
If I start AC in the morning, it takes 20 to 30 s since the new start up dialoge was established (AC23??).
What is AC doing during this time? I know the answer but I can't evidence it, so I'll not write it.
And the new login in AC25 is the next step.
Toppic finished from my point of view.

Regards
Mario Scht

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:34:27 GMT

I just had a weird issue with 25.
I have 2 users in my computer one for work the other for teaching and I have always been able to switch between users without previously having to close AC.
Today is the first time that AC would not open on the other user account even though License Manager recognized the connected dongle. AC kept indicating that there no license available.
I switched back, closed the 3 instances I had running, switched to the other user and AC ran fine.
I had not noticed before because I used to close AC since the projects I am working were big and I didn't want the system to slow down.

Re: Archicad 25 and GSID

Minh Nguyen — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 10:42:59 GMT

Hi Eduardo,

Thank you for the information, this is interesting!

May I ask when the issue happened, were you using the machine directly or through remote desktop connection (RDP)? Since you are using macOS, maybe RDP is not relevant but I just want to double-check. Nevertheless, this should not happen even on Archicad 25, so we need to dig a little deeper.

If the issue happens again, I would like to ask for the CmDust log from the current session
- On Mac: in a terminal window type:
cmu --cmdust > ~/CmDust.log
- On PC: run Start/All Programs/Codemeter/Tools/CmDust

On both platforms, a file named CmDust.log (or CmDust-Result.log) will be created in the userhome folder.
I will need this file for further investigation.

Thank you very much for your help!
Best regards,
Minh