topic Re: How to measure these angles? in Modeling

How to measure these angles?

Kamelite — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:25:37 GMT

So, I need to measure the angles rounded by a red circle, in order to make a precise cut. How would anyone suggest I do that? I cannot use the angle Dimension tool, and I do fear that if I measure the angles in 2D (plan view), AC wont take into consideration the sloping of the beam. The beam itself is a morph, if it matters. And just to clearify, it is two separate beams placed together..

The angle of the walls is 22,5 degrees, and the roof is 40 degrees. However, just cutting the top With those angles, and the bottom With 22,5/90 degrees does not produce the correct result. I need to be able to measure them. How to achieve this?

How would anyone in here go Ahead and make a set of drawings for a carpenter to be able to produce this roof whithout having to do the old test-and-fail Method?

.Thag

Re: How to measure these angles?

Dontknow — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:38:55 GMT

You mean de angle between the two roof faces 1 and 2?

Re: How to measure these angles?

Kamelite — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:04:40 GMT

Dontknow wrote:
You mean de angle between the two roof faces 1 and 2?

I Guess the answer to that is no. What I need is the angles required to make the cut in each end of the beam that is between the red circles, so to speak.

And it is those angles I'm having trouble With measuring.

I've tried to illustrate: The Picture Attached shows a beam, and the piece that it "hits" (wireframed, marked With a red circle in the original post). And its the two angles marked With red and black I need to know precisely. And then, the same two angles in the other end of the beam.

Thag

Re: How to measure these angles?

Dontknow — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 15:37:59 GMT

Ah. I see.
I don't think that can be done in ArchiCAD.
Normally special construction engineering drawings are made for this.

Re: How to measure these angles?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:40:52 GMT

I think it can be done this way:
• Show only the Beam in 3D.
• Menu "View->3D Navigation Extras->Look to Perpendicular Surface" and click on the side you need to measure the angle
• Right Click on an empty area "Save as 3D Document"
• Use the measure tool to measure the angle
• Repeat as necessary
• If you need to create annotations for this then I think you will need to also create a detail of the beam from the 3D Doc.

Re: How to measure these angles?

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:38:34 GMT

You could also convert each element to morphs to finalise the solid element operations / roof cuts, then select each element individually and create 3d document for each view required to document the cuts / angles.

If you don't want lots of 3d documents you could copy the morphs away from the model (I would probably create a storey purely to document these elements) and then rotate to appropriate view orientations

Scott

Re: How to measure these angles?

David Maudlin — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:53:07 GMT

Thag:

I am not positive I understand exactly the angle(s) that you need to measure, but for the black one in your second illustration you may be able to place a Section that is parallel to the side of the beam to have a true, measurable angle to dimension.

David

Re: How to measure these angles?

Kamelite — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:19:48 GMT

"ejrolon" wrote:
I think it can be done this way:
• Show only the Beam in 3D.
• Menu "View->3D Navigation Extras->Look to Perpendicular Surface" and click on the side you need to measure the angle
• Right Click on an empty area "Save as 3D Document"
• Use the measure tool to measure the angle
• Repeat as necessary
• If you need to create annotations for this then I think you will need to also create a detail of the beam from the 3D Doc.

I did what you described above, and it sort of worked. Two of the angles was measured correct, the other two was not. But i do belive that the two wrong ones was due to human error! Thanx alot!