topic Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move in Modeling

Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

haidu_bogdan — Tue, 01 Sep 2015 17:57:28 GMT

Hi,
I realized now that in archicad 19, the last selection remains active whenever you do a copy or drag command. Is this changeable, can this be corrected. It's becoming very annoying for a software which promotes performance and speed as it delays most of my work.

Thanks,
Bogdan

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 02:11:38 GMT

This has been the case for a very long time (I just checked version 12 and that is the same).
There is no setting I am aware of to change this unless there is something in the Registry (Plist on Mac?).
It used to be (many years ago) that when you copied the original stayed selected and not the copy - I am glad that has changed.

The idea is that once you move or copy something you may want to do so again or adjust its position slightly if not exact.

Just click away from the selection to let go of it.
Make sure the 'Quick selection' magnet is turned off otherwise you may end up selecting something else (or use the space bar to toggle the magnet off when de-selecting if you prefer to leave it turned on).

Barry.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

haidu_bogdan — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 03:28:37 GMT

Archicad 18 doesn't have this problem, and neither do 17, 16 from what I recall. For me this is something new.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 03:46:23 GMT

So you are saying then before 19 if you were to drag a copy of an element that it would not remain selected after the copy but it does now in 19?

This is odd to me as no matter what I try it remains selected in all versions I have back to 12.

The attached is taken from the version 16 reference guide.
I am not aware of anything that will change this behaviour.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with multiple copy

haidu_bogdan — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 06:15:39 GMT

I somehow solved it.
It seems that a the command drag multiple copies has this new error in archicad 19. If I use the simple drag a copy command then I don't have any problem. If you say you had this problem since A12, then there might some differences between the mac archicad and the windows archicad, as I use it on windows.
It was very annoying at first as I always use custom shortcuts, and I even forgot that there were too copy command.
Too bad the multiple copies command got broken, it was much faster to use it when working. So now there are not keeping too their new motto completely .
Thank you very much for your help. I would report this bug, but I don't know where to do it. And I think this should be solved in the mac versions too.

Bogdan

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 06:58:14 GMT

The 'Drag Multiple Copies' when used from the pull down menus in 19 does indeed leave the copies and the original selected when you finish the command.
In previous versions only the copies remain selected - the originals are de-selected.

I hadn't noticed this before as I only ever use the keyboard shortcuts (start to drag and press ALT+CTRL).
This works as expected where only the copies remain selected in all versions.

The best place to report a bug is to your local distributor.
They should then help you to solve the problem (if you are paying the annual support fees) or pass it on the GS headquarters as a bug if there is no solution.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 11:50:13 GMT

I report this as a bug to Graphisoft.
Both the Drag Multiple Copies and Rotate Multiple Copies command work incorrectly, regardless of how the command is invoked, by menu command, context menu command or keyboard shortcut.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

haidu_bogdan — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 12:58:09 GMT

This was the answer I got. It looks like it had been requested by many users.

"This change was made by purpose in ARCHICAD 19. So by now, ARCHICAD does select the original elements too after Drag a Copy, Rotate a Copy and Mirror a Copy commands. This was a wish of a lot of users, who needed to make an Undo then a Redo to select the original elements too."

I would've liked an option to change this back to the way I was used too. This was a bad move from Graphisoft.
I think I will put this in the wishlist.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Barry Kelly — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 14:27:13 GMT

I just tried on my laptop and original and copies become selected either through the menu or keyboard shortcut.
I could have sworn it was only the menu that did this on my office PC.
I won't be able to check it again for a couple days but I will try to remember to have a look when I get back to the office.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 04 Sep 2015 00:27:22 GMT

haidu_bogdan wrote:
This was the answer I got. It looks like it had been requested by many users.

"This change was made by purpose in ARCHICAD 19. So by now, ARCHICAD does select the original elements too after Drag a Copy, Rotate a Copy and Mirror a Copy commands. This was a wish of a lot of users, who needed to make an Undo then a Redo to select the original elements too."

OK, then I will not report this to Graphisoft as a bug.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

Barry Kelly — Fri, 04 Sep 2015 02:05:38 GMT

Barry wrote:
I just tried on my laptop and original and copies become selected either through the menu or keyboard shortcut.
I could have sworn it was only the menu that did this on my office PC.
I won't be able to check it again for a couple days but I will try to remember to have a look when I get back to the office.

Barry.

I must have been imagining things.
Just tried on my office machine and that is now selecting the original when I drag multiple copies with the keyboard shortcut too.

If GS can change an option like this because of a request from "a lot of users" (which I am glad they are listening to the users) then surely they can add a switch in the Work Environment to turn this feature on or off.
Maybe there is a Registry switch?

I don't use it often but I wish it didn't select the original as well.
It doesn't with a simple drag a copy - let's be consistent and not do it for drag multiple copies either.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 19, Last selection active with copy and move

mIRage66 — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:49:57 GMT

I agree with the OP since I also wanted to complain about this.
The drag a multiple copy command got broken, or is it a "feature"? I didn't quite understand.

My problem is that I would always use "drag a multiple copy" even when copying just one thing, by quickly pressing ctrl+D followed by ctrl+command. Everything in a non thinking fraction of a second move. Been doing that for so long that it's extremely hard to unlearn and go back to using "drag a copy".

Really hope it's a bug!
And if it's a feature then I'm glad at least the drag a copy got spared...