topic Re: AC20 Minor annoyances in Modeling

AC20 Minor annoyances

Richard Morrison — Tue, 23 May 2023 14:18:01 GMT

Overall, I like AC20 a lot! However, there are a couple of minor issues that make it very difficult to work.

1) We seem to have lost the 3D line/flat color library previews, and so now all 3D previews are rendered. This makes it very hard to see any detail in a 3D view if the object is white on the white background. Is there any way to get the old-style preview back?

2) I've noticed that sometimes 3D elements like morphs do not show up right away in the 2D view if they were drawn in 3D. Sometimes it takes drawing a similar element in plan, and then all the elements show up. This is probably a bug, but is there any way to overcome this in the meantime?

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:51:26 GMT

for #01 you can switch to 2D previews by clicking in the gear icon.
For #02 I'll need to check but probably a bug while the Favs are rebuilt.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Richard Morrison — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:31:39 GMT

Thanks, Eduardo, but I wasn't referring to favorites. I'm talking about the standard dialog box for doors/windows/library parts, and the 3D OpenGL preview there.

The display issue is on the main screen, not favorites.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:38:13 GMT

OK, got it. Would have been nice to have the contours for the OpenGL view.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:40:42 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
for #01 you can switch to 2D previews by clicking in the gear icon.

You can hover your cursor over any Favorite (you don't have to actually select the Favorite, just hover over it) and press the SHIFT key and it will toggle between the 2D and 3D Previews. Just a small something to know.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Anonymous — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:24:14 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:

You can hover your cursor over any Favorite (you don't have to actually select the Favorite, just hover over it) and press the SHIFT key and it will toggle between the 2D and 3D Previews. Just a small something to know.

Interesting, good to know it. Thanks Laszlonagy.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Richard Morrison — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:58:37 GMT

Here is an example of door favorite previews, which look pretty much the same in the preview of the Door preview. Quick, tell me how many panels these doors have... I'm sorry, but this is just worthless. How did this even get through beta?

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:07:01 GMT

Probably because default Doors and Windows in ARCHICAD are Wood and that looks fine in 3D preview.
Nevertheless, I will report this to GRAPHISOFT.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Richard Morrison — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:25:13 GMT

Thank you, Laszlo! Actually, the OOTB surfaces for doors in the USA version is 02-Whitewash (as displayed), so this issue would be hard to miss.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Jeff Kogut — Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:29:39 GMT

Under the 'minor annoyances' category I'd add the Find & Select box. So 'Add' is on the left and it pops up a box on the right, and then everything is collapsed.

Just slower.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

David Maudlin — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:39:06 GMT

Jeff wrote:
the Find & Select box. So 'Add' is on the left and it pops up a box on the right, and then everything is collapsed.

On my Mac, the box pops up on the left side if there is enough screen space on that side, so try moving the palette to the right. Once sections are opened in the box, they remain open by default when the box is reopened.

David

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Jeff Kogut — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:09:26 GMT

Thanks David, I moved things around on my screen to give room on the left and that helps.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Katalin Borszeki — Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:36:00 GMT

Hi! We have been aware of this issue, there is an entry about this in our developer database (#212112). We are planning to add a WE checkbox under More Options to control the status of contours of the Favourite 3D previews and Library Part Settings 3D previews in the next ARCHICAD version.
Best, k

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Stress Co_ — Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:56:52 GMT

What happened to the "Edit Selection Set" button,
which previously resided in the Layer Section of the "Info Box"??

I added it to my custom toolbar, but I'm so used to having it in that location.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 01:32:24 GMT

They removed it to make more space and because conceptually it shouldn't be there (don't get mad at me I am just the messenger ) If you use standard shortcuts, and the reason I don't miss the icon, it is CMD+OPT+T.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Stress Co_ — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 02:10:00 GMT

As the title says, minor annoyance.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

fuzzytnth3 — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:50:00 GMT

Anyone else find opening the Favourites palette or clicking on the toolbar to pop out the palette slow?

I made a wee movie below showing how sluggish it is to appear.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/399074/sites/trapdoor/SlowFavs.mov

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Jeff Kogut — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:57:03 GMT

fuzzytnth3 wrote:
Anyone else find opening the Favourites palette or clicking on the toolbar to pop out the palette slow?

I made a wee movie below showing how sluggish it is to appear.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/399074/sites/trapdoor/SlowFavs.mov

Yes, but no where near as slow as yours. With 10 favorites ours takes about 3 seconds to 'build' the list the first time the tool is used each day (why isn't this persistent and not need to rebuild each time the file is opened?). Subsequent openings are instant.

We are using SSD's on Core i7 with 16gb RAM. I'm guessing you have a spinning, maybe 5400rpm, drive which takes a while to spool up. Seriously, an SSD upgrade will make your system feel like a new computer.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Stress Co_ — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 17:05:53 GMT

fuzzytnth3 wrote:
I made a wee movie below showing how sluggish it is to appear.

I'd call that one a Major annoyance.

Re: AC20 Minor annoyances

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:25:26 GMT

Stress wrote:
What happened to the "Edit Selection Set" button,
which previously resided in the Layer Section of the "Info Box"??

I added it to my custom toolbar, but I'm so used to having it in that location.

That is a minor annoyance to me too