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    <title>topic Re: AC 25 - 3D view causing graphics crash in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323455#M155973</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Be sure to send the Bug Reports off, take a copy of the Bug ID, and then follow up with your local Archicad support people.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;You said uninstalling AMD drivers and software solved it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just try uninstalling additional Graphics Card software.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i.e. Nvidia has GeForce Experience - this has caused problems in the past.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Also try the 3D window with the Vectorial engine rather than the OpenGL engine (or Hardware Accelerated engine I think they call it now in 25).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If that works then I would suspect the graphics card.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Could be the additional software or maybe an older driver may work (if there is one for Windows 11) - this has worked in the past.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 01:35:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-11-29T01:35:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>AC 25 - 3D view causing graphics crash</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323453#M155972</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;AMD's WX9100 latest driver and Archicad are currently not playing nice:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Issue:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Windows 11 - 64-Bit Edition -&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Adrenalin 21.11.3 Optional-&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;11/17/2021 will cause Archicad 25 to crash in the 3D Viewport&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fix - uninstall AMD's drivers and software and it will stop this from happening&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 01:14:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323453#M155972</guid>
      <dc:creator>smmj</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T01:14:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 25 - 3D view causing graphics crash</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323455#M155973</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Be sure to send the Bug Reports off, take a copy of the Bug ID, and then follow up with your local Archicad support people.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You said uninstalling AMD drivers and software solved it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just try uninstalling additional Graphics Card software.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i.e. Nvidia has GeForce Experience - this has caused problems in the past.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also try the 3D window with the Vectorial engine rather than the OpenGL engine (or Hardware Accelerated engine I think they call it now in 25).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If that works then I would suspect the graphics card.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Could be the additional software or maybe an older driver may work (if there is one for Windows 11) - this has worked in the past.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 01:35:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323455#M155973</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T01:35:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 25 - 3D view causing graphics crash</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323459#M155974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks, Barry,&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":sign_of_the_horns:"&gt;🤘&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;...You're right, an older driver could also work, but Archicad is working fast without these installed right now.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The crashes were happening with Hardware acceleration off too.&lt;BR /&gt;OpenGL engine I find is a must if you prefer speed/ fast feedback - IMO.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Great to see this community has mod's like yourself looking out for these posts. (I usually send direct Graphisoft bug reports with ID's).&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;-&amp;gt; Local Archicad support just distributes the software where I'm based (NZ), so I don't see the point of making them aware as they're not the developers -I imagine this business model will change in time due to inefficiencies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's forums like this I find helpful when it comes to bugs/crashes. I imagine posting here also helps more people like myself find same-day fix's which is much more efficient than spending time on emails and phone calls with delayed distributors. (especially if an instant same-day fix is possible)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 03:11:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323459#M155974</guid>
      <dc:creator>smmj</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T03:11:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 25 - 3D view causing graphics crash</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323461#M155975</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I was not referring to Hardware Acceleration in the Work Environment.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the 3D Styles you can chose the engine to view the 3D model with.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Vectorial is a bit slow but if the 3D model does not crash, then you know it is not a model problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;OpenGL has been renamed Hardware Acceleration in 25 (because Macs no longer use OpenGL I believe).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BarryKelly_0-1638156170956.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17206i50965BD806794FAE/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="BarryKelly_0-1638156170956.png" alt="BarryKelly_0-1638156170956.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The bug reports contain information about your machine and I think what Archicad was doing at the time of the crash.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Graphisoft gets the bug reports but your local distributor should have access to them as well if you can tell them the ID number.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If that is Central Innovation (used to be CadImage), then they can definitely help you out.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Barry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 05:09:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-25-3D-view-causing-graphics-crash/m-p/323461#M155975</guid>
      <dc:creator>Barry Kelly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-11-29T05:09:41Z</dc:date>
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