topic Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile? in Modeling

dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

hampden — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:49:05 GMT

hopefully this is not a double post...not sure what happened the first time...

anyone been able to get a plan view of a wall using a custom profile to show a foundation with a dashed line for the footing and a solid line for the foundation wall? (see attached image) i have not been able to show dashed lines for any part of the wall below the cut line, only seems to have a parameter for above....seems odd as this feature seems ideal for footings, any one have a workaround or see something i'm missing?

-stefan

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

TomWaltz — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:08:27 GMT

It would be really nice, but Archicad is pretty literal about way too many things, and there is no way to model a dashed line...

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Scott Bulmer — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:56:31 GMT

You may have to do the old Explode & Keep Original Elements trick.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

hampden — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:19:02 GMT

Scott wrote:
You may have to do the old Explode & Keep Original Elements trick.

yup that's what i was afraid of - sounds like separate modeling and line layers...this lack of detailed control over model representation is a good illustration of the gap between the goal of BIM and its (current) reality ... it's kind of ironic because it's actually closer to BIM to model the two separately on different layers and assign the footing a dashed line property.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Richard Morrison — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:28:37 GMT

I have't found a way to get custom profiles to show with mixed linetypes. But you can model the footing as a wall, and just set the floor display type to "overhead", with an overhead linetype of dashed. (Obviously, it isn't really overhead, but the program doesn't care.) This way you can have a clean combined foundation in section without the dashed linetype carrying over, and section fills will display properly, too.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

SeaGeoff — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:09:23 GMT

Or you could just use a slab.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Chazz — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:53:16 GMT

Scott wrote:
You may have to do the old Explode & Keep Original Elements trick.

Heaven forbid! How about just a little magic wanding with a fat dashed white pen polyline above the the footing lines? This way it reads properly in section and plan. However, this is perhaps still too much of a hassle because it doesn't track if you (say...) move the Profile Wall in 3D. And it smells too much like drafting.

Want something that gives you the dashed line AND tracks automatically when the wall is Profile Wall is moved? One way would be to put a zero thickness Wall Accessory that has the same width as the footing line. Now assign that accessory that same fat dashed white pen in 2D and viola, it reads correctly in 2D, section and 3D AND it tracks automatically when you move the Profile Wall. It's a pretty gnarly workaround though.....

At least tricks like this used to work. Do Wall Accessories work on complex profile walls?

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Link — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:57:44 GMT

At least tricks like this used to work. Do Wall Accessories work on complex profile walls?

They do Chazz (although not in a very friendly way). What wall accessory do you use, with which settings?

Cheers,
Link.

PS. This guys a friend of yours, or are you just a geographical victim? :

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=11277

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Chazz — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:41:57 GMT

Link wrote:
PS. This guys a friend of yours, or are you just a geographical victim? http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=11277

Santa Cruz is a bigger town than one might think, with a broader range of opinion than we get credit for. As for my acquaintance with
Mr. Logan Cartwright
United States of America,
Leader of the Free world.

I will only say that I was as big a fan of BONANZA as the next kid.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

Chazz — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:20:08 GMT

Chazz wrote:
Want something that gives you the dashed line AND tracks automatically when the wall is Profile Wall is moved? One way would be to put a zero thickness Wall Accessory that has the same width as the footing line. Now assign that accessory that same fat dashed white pen in 2D and viola, it reads correctly in 2D, section and 3D AND it tracks automatically when you move the Profile Wall. It's a pretty gnarly workaround though.....

At least tricks like this used to work. Do Wall Accessories work on complex profile walls?

Link wrote:
They do Chazz (although not in a very friendly way). What wall accessory do you use, with which settings?

Not friendly is right! I should investigate these things before I post..... It looks like Wall Accessories do not remain associative when used with Complex Profile Walls. Bummer.

Re: dashed lines for footing in plan view using profile?

lukegolesh — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 22:09:16 GMT

This may have been answered elsewhere, but coming across it, I've had decent luck using 'Projected' plan profile in 'Wall Selection Settings', using 'Outlines' to control the footing line. If necessary, you can change the Floor Plan Cut Plane Settings to cut through the stem wall (and control the stem wall line weight with the cut line pen).

Using a slab or a separate wall profile for the footing is one good solution, because there are instances where the stem wall needs to break whereas the footing is continuous. If you are trying to shown a key between the stem and the footing in section, you could do a stem wall with a key (complex profile), and if you want to get carried away, 'Subtract' via SEO from the footing.