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If you can make these stairs look normal, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.

LeeJaeYoung — Thu, 30 Jan 2025 15:27:05 GMT

I am satisfied with this staircase.
The structure part is a square column, but I can edit it!

However, it was not possible to make the structural part of this staircase come out like a square column.
The lower part of this stairway looks too strange to me.
If you can make these stairs look normal, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.

The lower part of this staircase is too difficult to form.
And the reason I have stairs like this is because it's a small building.
And you have to save money.

Re: If you can make these stairs look normal, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.

SenecaDesignLLC — Wed, 25 May 2022 06:31:34 GMT

Before Archicad stairs and railing, I wrote a stair gdl that can do what I think you might be after.

I'll post an image and see if it's what you're after.

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Barry Kelly — Wed, 25 May 2022 06:54:07 GMT

It is a problem as soon as you put winder treads in the landing.

With flat landings the underside of the stairs remain flat as well.

As soon as you add winders the underside will be come curved.

The only way you can control it is to model the stars in sections - each flight and winder portion modelled as separate stairs.

You can leave it a one stair and 'split' the structure.

That gives a little better control under the winders but there will still be some curving in the flights.

Here is another post where I have mentioned it before.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Curved-Stair-issue-with-construction/td-p/283945?f=20&t=66176#p294233

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Wed, 25 May 2022 07:16:04 GMT

thank you.
However, as I am a beginner, it is difficult to understand accurately.
The lower part is not even as flat as in the picture.
Can't you make a video on YouTube for a beginner like me? ^^
If you have the time. ^^
Right now, it only shows 3D and I wish there was a comment on how to control 2D.

Thank you again.

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Barry Kelly — Wed, 25 May 2022 08:38:50 GMT

If I can find time I will try to make a video.

In the mean time...

Model a complete stair just to get the settings correct.

Link the top to the storey above.

This will give you the required riser height.

ALT-click this stair to gets its settings.

Delete it and now place individual flights.

Set the top as 'Flexible' so you can add just the number of treads/risers that you need for each flight.

If you model the flights in plan you will have to elevate in 3D.

If you model them in 3D, you can simply start where the one before ends and the heights should be fine.

The winder is actually a flight (not a landing as such) and the number of winders is controlled in the stair settings before you place it.

You will need to adjust the numbering of treads in plan and also the break line positions.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Wed, 25 May 2022 08:55:32 GMT

Thank you for your advice.
I would like to ask you one more question.
I can't delete the Start End Symbol in 2D.
How can I delete it?

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Barry Kelly — Wed, 25 May 2022 09:25:35 GMT

Looks like you can't actually turn that symbol off.

Best I could do is use the one with 2 lines and make the lines a wide dotted line type.

Or if you are handy with a bit of GDL you could create your own walking line object with an option for 'None'.

Or turn the entire walking line off.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Wed, 25 May 2022 09:34:10 GMT

For beginners, Archicad seems really difficult.
I really appreciate your advice.

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LeeJaeYoung — Thu, 26 May 2022 05:53:32 GMT

I have one more question.
Up should not be visible from the stairs on the roof floor, is it possible to control it?

Downstairs should look up

On the roof layer, only dn should be visible and the up character should not be visible.
How are you doing?

And I ask if it is possible to specify the direction of the arrows for the roof layer and the bottom layer separately.
If you have time, can you please reply?

I wonder how far it is possible in Archicad.
Have a nice day ^^

Re: If you can make these stairs look normal, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.

Barry Kelly — Thu, 26 May 2022 06:53:56 GMT

You can control what is shown on the relevant storey, or what shows above or below the relevant storey.

I only have 2 stories in this example so the other options are not visible.

But basically you set it as you want to see it on, above or from below the relevant storey.

Use the preview buttons to see how each storey will look - saves you having to OK, check then open settings again.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Thu, 26 May 2022 08:20:36 GMT

Which one should I choose to be like you?

I'm not creating a situation like yours.

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Barry Kelly — Thu, 26 May 2022 08:36:06 GMT

I have my stair set to show on home storey (where t=you place it and one storey up - as I model my stairs going up.

For the floor plan display, in the home (relevant) storey I have it set to show with a break mark - visible/hidden and on the storey above I have the reverse with a break mark - hidden/visible.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Thu, 26 May 2022 15:34:25 GMT

The method you mentioned doesn't seem to apply to me with deadlines. We also need +50 to view the story at Slab Level.
Then you will see 3 of them as shown below.

Then I can't control it?

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Barry Kelly — Fri, 27 May 2022 02:03:29 GMT

You have told the stair to display on all 'relevant' storeys and one storey up.

You have then raised the stair by 50mm. so it now protrudes into another storey - it is now relevant to that storey as well.

Try setting to 'Home' storey and one storey up.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Fri, 27 May 2022 03:42:13 GMT

In the case of Home & One Story Up, the top and bottom are not separated.
Only the top is off, but the bottom is also off.

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Barry Kelly — Fri, 27 May 2022 05:45:13 GMT

It is very hard to say what settings you need without having access to the actual file.

I am really just guessing and trying to set up what you have.

It might be because you have elevated the stair by 50mm that it is not working as expected.

That is effectively forcing it up into the next storey.

There have been other posts here that have had this trouble.

Try setting the stair back to zero height above home storey and see if it is easier to get what you want.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Fri, 27 May 2022 05:54:22 GMT

Thank you for all your hard work so far.
I learned a lot about stairs and various settings.
Thank you again.
Have a nice day ^^

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Barry Kelly — Fri, 27 May 2022 06:21:36 GMT

Yes the height does affect the stair settings/view.

Here I have a stair at zero height.

I duplicated the stair and raised it 100mm.

On the lower floor they look much the same - break mark moves a little because it is set to floor plan cut plane height.

On the upper floor they look a bit different.

It seems some of the floor plan display settings change automatically as you adjust the stair height.

Adjusting the settings again, you should be able to get it back to what you want.

Barry.

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LeeJaeYoung — Fri, 27 May 2022 07:03:49 GMT

thank you so much.