topic Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail in Modeling

AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

DGSketcher — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 09:52:55 GMT

The Layer selection dialog in tools is now constrained in width to the extent that similar layer names cannot be visually differentiated. You now have to wait 2 seconds for each name to appear in full in a pop up when you hovver your mouse over what you think is the right layer. If you know exactly what you are looking for you can use search, but other than that, layer selection is now a PITA!

Bear in mind this is a function we use all day long! Ever feel like AC is one step forward two steps back...

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Ahmed_K — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 09:59:12 GMT

let's start our 27 wish list lol

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Martin Jules — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 10:13:29 GMT

Graphisoft is playing with us!

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Djordje — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:56:16 GMT

you forgot to mention that you have to right click in order to rename a layer...

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Lee Hankins — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 15:12:23 GMT

This was reported during Beta stage and is being fixed. I believe for the first update this will be resolved.

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:54:59 GMT

You sure?

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 17:32:01 GMT

Also per Beta, "Click to Rename" is reserved for folders only and it cannot be applied to layer names without a rewrite. So GS decided that renaming folders is the primary activity, not fixing layer names. When you get to the point that you realize that folders are a waste of time then you will have neither renaming.

As a dev indicated it is only 2 more clicks…

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Martin Jules — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:43:07 GMT

@Eduardo Rolon, Layer name(s) can be changed inside the folder(s). I am not sure I understand your point. Take a look at the following screenshots:

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Martin Jules — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:54:16 GMT

For me, the logic to integrate folders in Archicad is great. This gives a sense of organization. As designers, we have to better organize our layers, materials, and any other objects or structural elements using the software. Furthermore, it works very well on my computer. Try checking this kind of features again, you'll like it.

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 22:10:02 GMT

On all versions prior to 26 in order to rename a Layer you only needed to click on the name.

In 26 you need to click on the layer then right click and select 'Rename".

The only item that does click to edit is a Folder or a Master Layer.

This is stupid…

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 22:22:12 GMT

As someone that has been using 26 for the last 5 months I can confidently say that you are wrong on this. Folders do not work, they create more problems that they solve and were a waste of resources.

At this point doing prefixes on Layers still is the best organizing function.

If you though Folders worked like on Rhino or others you are mistaken.

This is not what GS implemented

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

furtonb — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 14:12:05 GMT

In RhinoWIP layer management is more like on windows - I haven’t found the time to express it on the McNeel forum that I don’t like it, I prefer Rhino 7’s way of dealing with layers. AC could’ve just copied it…

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Lee Hankins — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 17:21:37 GMT

I meant the width of the drop down dialogue for the layer names. To be honest, I don’t see the need to have to change layer names once they are created unless a mistake was made but that’s surely not a daily occurrence. We had instances where users kept accidentally changing layer names so I am glad for the change.

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Martin Jules — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 17:39:14 GMT

In addition to that, we need to focus on the big pwoblem of the yearly Graphisoft release.

After releasing Archicad 26, which generates lots of frustrations, I wonder if we really need a new version every year.

If Graphisoft doesn't have enough resources, it would be kind for the company to take more than one year to develop and release the upcoming Archicad versions. A two or three year-term subscription would be welcome.

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 18:34:25 GMT

So now it is harder to screw it up and it is harder to fix it once they do…

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

DGSketcher — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 21:23:52 GMT

...If you spot it is wrong in the compromised list width...

Re: AC26 - Layer Selection Usability Fail

Martin Jules — Sun, 17 Jul 2022 05:07:00 GMT

@Lee Hankins Clicking on the layers to change their names is a smart option. I'd appreciate if Graphisoft could put it back. Apart from this option, I like the newest configuration, especially in "Attributes" as you can see it on the right, where I put the cursor: