topic Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...? in Modeling

My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:53:24 GMT

So this is a new one: I opened up a model today, about 18 months old, and all the geometry was gone. Everyting. And the size of the file suggests that it is in the file, beeing 122 MB in size, while a clean pln-file saved will be around 30 MB.

I've tried every trick in the book to make it appear. But it doesn't.

I open up a random schedule on walls - nada... Even thoughit's hidden, its elements should be visible on schedule, shouldn't they?

If it matters, the file was modelled in 23, and imported into 25..

Any ideas?

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Lee Hankins — Sat, 21 Jan 2023 18:33:14 GMT

Check your renovation filter settings. Change it to ‘Existing’ or ‘Proposed’ or ‘Show All’ This was a bug in early versions of 25 where it reverted the screen on opening to ‘Existing’ so it appears everything was gone.

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:26:21 GMT

But opening the model in 24 and 26 give the same result.

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Lee Hankins — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:29:11 GMT

Have you tried switching the renovation filter?

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 07:35:28 GMT

Yes. No change, whatsoever. But shouldn't the geometry appear in the schedules, regardles of renovation status?

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

cuba — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:22:35 GMT

The schedules take into account the renovation filter. Depending on which renovation status you use, you will get a different schedule. With a single schedule, you can save different views so you get variants with schedules in the renovation filter.

Maybe you used cutplanes or a volume with a high buildingmaterial level that cuts everything?

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:28:17 GMT

No cutplanes, no nothing. Not to mension, I saved a file with a visible model, and opened the file some time later and it was gone...

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Lee Hankins — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:35:31 GMT

I don't think it would make any difference at all but you haven't got a marquee active somewhere?

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:46:40 GMT

No. And I have pressed Escape numerous times in the 3D-view... Same with F3...

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Miha_M — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:09:19 GMT

The schedules depend on filter settings, where the renovation status can also be set.

If you tried to set every available renovation status and still don't see anythig there must be another problem present. If a 3D view with all layers on and the renovation filter set to "show all" (+ fit in window command) doesn't show anything and also the schedules are empty, then you might have a serious problem. The model shows in archicad 23 without problems?

Also try switchig your 3D view settings to a "vectorial" display, but there is little chance this will solve your problem.

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:07:16 GMT

I guess I didn't tell, which I should have done, the geometry not visible in plan view either...

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

cuba — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:08:16 GMT

Try to open it first in ac24 and migrate the libraries and then open it in 25...

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Miha_M — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:14:43 GMT

Is this a local or teamwork file? Do you have the option to open and check the file in it's original version 23? You say the file was imported to 25. Imported or just opened in v25?

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Lee Hankins — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:21:55 GMT

If you want to upload the file to WeTransfer or similar and message me the link on here I can download it and have a look for you.

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Kamelite — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:30:18 GMT

As much as I appreciate your offer, I would have to decline due to company-restrictions!

But thanx anyway!

Miha:M - this is a local file. I didn't know there were a difference between opening and importing?

.Kamelite

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

cuba — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:49:48 GMT

You also try to open it with open&repair in open menu (under options)

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Miha_M — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:36:52 GMT

Open & Repair works only on a corresponding file version, I think. You can not repair a v23 file with Archicad v25.

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Barry Kelly — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:47:00 GMT

@Kamelite wrote:

As much as I appreciate your offer, I would have to decline due to company-restrictions!

If you can't share the file with anyone here, then your best option will be to contact your local support people if you have a support agreement.

After all that is what they are for.

If you model something new in the file, do you see it?

Barry.

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Djordje — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:52:40 GMT

You might have something very, very far away, so the zoom to fit zooms very far out...

With all the layers visible and unlocked, renovation filter on Show All, open the 3D window, click on Show All for good measure, and with the arrow tool active, hit CTRL-A.

That selects ALL. If your selection shows zero, then sorry... if it shows a number of items, that you expect, and you see a dot lost somewhere in the blankness of the 3D view, then your model is there, and you have to find the culprit.

I would go tool by tool (activate tool, CTRL - A in 3D window) and check... all walls, all slabs, all objects, all roofs, all beams... etc.)

Also, are all of your views in the view set "zoom to fit" or zoomed? If the Ignore zoom box is ticked, then never mind...

If all of this is faster than just redoing the thing?

Re: My entire model is gone!! Why...?

Lee Hankins — Mon, 23 Jan 2023 12:01:34 GMT

No problem. I can understand that. If you change your mind though just let me know.