topic Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing? in Modeling

How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Steve Jepson — Sat, 25 Mar 2023 01:08:29 GMT

I can't think of how to extract length of Casing from the default door and window objects.

I do it in other ways. But it seems like somethign that should be possible to do with the default doors and windows.

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Ahmed_K — Sat, 25 Mar 2023 08:56:17 GMT

i use expressions properties, it works for 95% of cases

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

gdford — Sat, 25 Mar 2023 13:29:15 GMT

If I really need to do a solid QTO I use beams and columns and build my own. It is a pain, but it works 100% of the time.

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Steve Jepson — Mon, 27 Mar 2023 17:05:50 GMT

I like that. It's not as though I need to schedule that very often anyway. And that beam and colmun can be copied around to where you need it pretty quickly and will of course automaically populate the Interactive Scheudles. Ideally, the objects for openings would let you choose the profile for the casing and be somehting you could show in an Interacive Schedule without the need for an Expression - which I don't know how to write anyway. I just never seem to find the time to learn how to do it well enough to be useful. Also, I am not rally excited about having to learn how to do it.

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

gdford — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:05:25 GMT

yes it would be nice if door trim could be assigned a profile like you can do with railings

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Erwin Edel — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:27:28 GMT

For cost estimates, we input width and height for all our doors/windows in our Excel cost estimate spreadsheet. This means we can easily generate length values for trim, without the need to model it.

For an accurate representation complex profile beams and columns are great. You might need to rotate the profile in the complex profile window to be able to use the angled ends of the column/beam to mimic mitred joints. For accurate classification we generally need to be able to separate out the trim as well (sadly you can't classify trim/window sills etc differently from the door/window).

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Steve Jepson — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 04:49:52 GMT

What is an expression for combining the total of columns or rows of an Interactive Schedule ?

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Ahmed_K — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 19:54:53 GMT

to use expressions, you won't need to model framings using beams and columns, te property is :

door widh + 2w door height ,

i have a frensh version, so expression is in frensh in the screenshot,

* in the propertie manager, create a property called framing legth,

* set the data type on the right to " NUMBER"

* select formula and type a formula

* you have to divide the door H and L bu 1m to convert them to numbers,

* set classification disponibility to all,

that's it

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Ahmed_K — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 20:07:39 GMT

If you want to model frames, you can use this porperty :

in this time the fomula have multiple lines, it will show a value when contitionsare correctly marches,

if the element is a columns, it will show the column height,

if the element is a beam it will show the beam legth,

also, if you can sit IDS to the relevant door ID, so you can filter them in the schedule

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Steve Jepson — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 00:04:25 GMT

That is perhaps a betterway to display what I am after in the Interactive Schedule. But I am thinking of other Interactive Schedules as well. Can an expression be written to simply combine the totals of rows and/or columns into a total sum ? I am guessing no. There is nothing we can do to the Interactive Schedule sums. Expressions are only related to the data that can be reported in Interactive Schedules. ? Is that correct?

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

Barry Kelly — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 00:55:54 GMT

That is correct.

The expressions in properties only affect the element they are associated to.

The schedule just tallies those figures from the elements.

The schedules do have a new merge option for each field (merge items must be on to use this).

That can give you a bit more control for how elements are tallied.

Barry.

Re: How to YOU use an Interactive Schedule to display lengths of Door Casing?

gdford — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:57:32 GMT

take the time to learn how to write property expressions....
there is soooo much control over your data here....