topic Re: Elevation Transparency - Set Glass to Opaque, objects to transparent. in Modeling

Graphic Override Glass (to solid white) & Frame (to solid black) in a Door / Window

architect — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:27:53 GMT

Wish: Transparent objects (such as MEP items) in elevation (to see the wall beyond),
So, I turned on Transparency in Elevation Settings.

Then, I want windows/doors (all glass) to be opaque in elevation so as to not see into the house. Lastly, the windows should still be transparent in 3D.

My graphic override was unsuccessful (I overrode Glass - Clear (surface) to Color - White, but to no luck.)

Re: Elevation Transparency - Set Glass to Opaque, objects to transparent.

Gerry Leonor — Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:23:48 GMT

what if you applied the override to the objects instead of the walls / windows while keeping the elevation model settings as is without overriding the transparency?

add a graphic override rule that calls up objects & have their material set to Invisible (or similar) & also override their outline pens to be gray & maybe override the linetype as per your second screenshot.

Re: Elevation Transparency - Set Glass to Opaque, objects to transparent.

architect — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:30:53 GMT

Thanks Gerry-

Transparency off prevents any 3d element from having transparency.
Transparency on allows an override to show transparency through any 3D element.
The issue is:
Overriding the Glass surface turns both the glass and window/door frame the same color, though I can't seem to get the frame black, and the glass white. It's minor, but important to delineate materials.

Re: Elevation Transparency - Set Glass to Opaque, objects to transparent.

Barry Kelly — Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:48:32 GMT

@architect wrote

The issue is:
Overriding the Glass surface turns both the glass and window/door frame the same color, though I can't seem to get the frame black, and the glass white. It's minor, but important to delineate materials.

Graphic Overrides will affect the entire element, not just the part (surface) you want to change.

If you don't mind the windows always being non-transparent, just use a non-transparent material for the glass in the object settings.

Barry.

Re: Elevation Transparency - Set Glass to Opaque, objects to transparent.

architect — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:25:42 GMT

Thanks Barry-

Found a solution: turning a surface's Transmittance to 50 or below will show the surface as opaque in elevation, and transparent in 3D.

This results in:
Transparent objects in elevation (to show elements beyond)
Opaque glass in elevation (for drawing clarity)
Transparent glass in 3D (for BIMx, renderings, navigation while working)

Other steps: Elevation Transparency checked (as shown above),
and a Graphic override of all objects on my MEP layer.