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The thickness of the plaster around the beam looks like the thickness of the beam

Sefa Yakut — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 19:57:28 GMT

Hello,

I added 2 cm of plaster around the beam I produced with a complex profile. When I draw the beam, the 2 cm plaster thickness around it is included in the thickness of the beam and my 30 cm beam appears as 34 cm.
It is quite misleading because there is no separating layer and it appears as a completely static element.
How can I add plaster around the beam and it won't show up in the thickness of the beam?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Re: The thickness of the plaster around the beam looks like the thickness of the beam

Barry Kelly — Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:52:42 GMT

You can create your complex profile with the nominated height and width as just the core of your profile.

Set the plaster as a "finish".

This will allow you to place the beam by the size of the core.

However in plan you will still see the overall width of the beam.

Unless the Floor Plan Cutting Plane happens to pass through the beam, then you can see the skins.

There is no 'Symbolic' floor plan display for a beam like there is for a wall.

There are nodes at the ends of the skins, you can't see them but you can snap to them when you dimension.

Just be aware the dimensions to these points will not be associative (not linked to the beam).

You can also adjust your 'Partial Structure Display' to show just the cores, and your beam will show the core thickness only in plan.

But this will affect other elements as well and you have to do a separate set of dimensions for each Partial Structure Display.

Barry.

Re: The thickness of the plaster around the beam looks like the thickness of the beam

Erwin Edel — Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:16:09 GMT

In the classification standards we have in The Netherlands you would need this to be separate from the load-bearing element and you would have to model it twice to be able to use both classification. As such I would model two elements. At that point you also generally have two different layers and it's possible to hide the 'unwanted' finish layer or use different projection options.

We hardly model plaster finish at all, since we need all dimension to be to the load-bearing walls and and elements. We do show the plaster finish in our (2D) principle details.

Just offering some insight in a possible different workflow.

Re: The thickness of the plaster around the beam looks like the thickness of the beam

Roopa A — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 14:40:57 GMT

How do we get the quantity for this plastering separately under schedule list.

When I created the schedule it is giving the entire thickness and the area associated with that, but I need only for the plaster.

How do we get that.'

Re: The thickness of the plaster around the beam looks like the thickness of the beam

Barry Kelly — Tue, 28 Nov 2023 02:00:13 GMT

Try a 'Component' schedule with fields for 'Component cross section area' or 'Component volume'

Barry.