topic Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side in Modeling

The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

ngoldie — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:06:16 GMT

The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side, when I click flip, it changes in the image on the object settings but nothing changes on the elevation. I've attached an image. I'm using Archicad 23 on a macintosh

Thanks

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:11:53 GMT

Where is the attachment?😉

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

ngoldie — Sun, 03 Mar 2024 18:48:59 GMT

here it is, sorry!

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:10:24 GMT

Ahh Ok.

As I usually flip W/D with the help of pet palette I rarely flip via settings dialogue or info box.

You’re right, the image in the settings dialogue shows it flipping on plan, front & 3D but sure it’s a graphical representation error for the window and should be fixed.

The only part is being flipped to O/I is the hinged leaf that can be opened leaving the fixed part as it is.

For sorry you’ve to use the other way for flipping by selecting the window then press any hotspot, from the pet palette choose mirror then press the middle window hotspot, it gonna be flipped.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

ngoldie — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:34:38 GMT

That worked thanks!!

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:05:52 GMT

Flipping a window just swaps the inside for the outside.

I think what you want to do is 'mirror' the window via the pet palette.

That will swap left to right.

Barry.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:28:21 GMT

If so, why the window settings’ dialogue shows a preview of mirrored window when pressing flip button?

Isn’t it a graphical error?

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:43:25 GMT

@Mahmoud Qenawi wrote:

If so, why the window settings’ dialogue shows a preview of mirrored window when pressing flip button?

Isn’t it a graphical error?

This one?

That clearly shows flipping inside to outside.

Barry.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:59:36 GMT

No I mean this preview image changes with flip as mirror at front & 3D options, you can check yourself.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:41:00 GMT

Placing your mouse in the elevation or 3D preview and clicking, will just show you the other side of the object.

It does not actually rotate or mirror the window.

Barry.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 05:09:56 GMT

Ok, here's a short video so Barry you can judge if this is flipping or mirroring.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 06:35:09 GMT

Clicking in the preview window just swaps the side you are looking at.

It will make no difference to the actual placed window.

The 'Flip' button will swap the inside to the outside.

It will actually flip the placed window as well.

It also swaps the side that you are viewing the window from in the preview - similar to clicking in the preview window as shown above.

So in effect it is doing both at the same time.

You are flipping the window but the preview is also flipping so you are looking at the same side as you were before - so it appears to mirror, but it is not.

And just to complicate things further, the reveal side of the window (the side of the wall you first click when placing the window) will not change at all.

So the reveal distance will always be measured from the side of that first placement click, and the external sill will be on that side - the sill side does not change.

To change that, you have to 'rotate' the window.

Clear as mud now? 😃

Barry.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:12:55 GMT

Yeah, I got it.

So preview buttons are only for preview,

the Flip button is only for swapping the window leaf & not for mirror.

BTW in Egypt we say clear as the sun,

how it changed in Australia to be clear as the mud?

At all, thank you Barry.

Re: The window won't flip, I need the transom on the other side

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:39:10 GMT

Just to clarify.

@Mahmoud Qenawi wrote:

So preview buttons are only for preview,

Correct.

@Mahmoud Qenawi wrote:

the Flip button is only for swapping the window leaf & not for mirror.

It doesn't swap the leaf from side to side it flips the whole window front to back

Any opening or fixed leafs will still be where they were before, just the window will be inside out.

@Mahmoud Qenawi wrote:

BTW in Egypt we say clear as the sun,

how it changed in Australia to be clear as the mud?

I haven't heard clear as the sun.

I assume that means you understand.

Clear as mud means you don't understand - can't see through mud.

I was just wondering if my explanation was a bit confusing.

Barry.