topic Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move in Modeling

Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Roderick Anderson — Thu, 07 Mar 2024 16:00:11 GMT

Has anybody noticed this also and found a way to make this behaviour go away?

I select any element (either on plan or 3D view) and if I don't wait for 1-2 seconds after selecting the item, the element will always think I want to move it. Therefore, if I am trying to work quickly and just select the item and then move the mouse over the the Info Box to edit any settings, the settings will be grayed out because the element is in the middle of a move command !

I've been using Archicad since version 10 and this has now been happening on version 26 and 27, but only if I use any of my Apple M1-equipped Macs. I use a MacBook Pro and a Mac Studio, both of them with the Apple M1 Max chip and they both behave the same.

Does anyone think of any possible setting in the Work Environment that could help with eliminating this behaviour? It gets kind of tiring trying to quickly select items, but having to wait a couple seconds after selecting a wall, a slab, an object, etc., because if I don't wait then it'll think I want to move the objects.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

mthd — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 00:56:27 GMT

That is strange and you have tried two different Mac devices and you are still getting the same problem. When troubleshooting were you using the same mouse on both devices when testing ? Keep trying different things and make sure your mouse is fully charged.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 01:36:23 GMT

I have this problem too since the release of AC26. Finally someone asks. Thanks.

I’m using M1 MacBook Pro and AC26. I think this is an obvious bug.

It happens even when I don’t connect my mouse, just using the built-in trackpad.

I can’t find any way to work around this bug.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

furtonb — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 04:37:22 GMT

M1 Max MBP here, same behaviour - really annoying.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Roderick Anderson — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 05:58:42 GMT

The mouse is not the problem. It happens independently if I use:

The Apple Magic Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3S mouse
Logitech MX Anywhere 3S mouse
The MacBook's trackpad

I just got my new Apple M3 Max unit today, in the process of installing everything, so I'll report in the event this does not happen with the M3 Max chip and is something only related to M1 Max.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

mthd — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 07:18:44 GMT

I am not having this problem. My M1 Mac was purchased in Australia at the end of 2022, I haven’t upgraded to Sonoma yet either. Would be good to hear if the M3 is any different ?

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Lingwisyer — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 06:15:52 GMT

Is there any delay between when you select an entity and it highlighting?

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 06:35:08 GMT

@Roderick Anderson wrote:
The mouse is not the problem. It happens independently if I use:
The Apple Magic Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3S mouse
Logitech MX Anywhere 3S mouse
The MacBook's trackpad

i use Logitech MX master & MBP trackpad. Same buggy behaviour

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

roderick — Mon, 11 Mar 2024 02:38:53 GMT

You could say there is a slight reply. When you select an element it kind of flashes a couple of times and after this it is selected. If you move the mouse (even if ever so slightly) during this flashing of the selection then it thinks you want to move (drag) the element.

I was paying closer attention to this on Friday, and it seems to me the behaviour does not happen all the time. I opened up AC27 and started working on a project and noticed "hey the problem is not happening" and then after a while it started happening, and then from that point forward it kept on happening. So it seems there is an action at some point that does trigger the behaviour.

I have completed setting up my M3 Max unit and will start working on a project on it tomorrow, so I'll report back if this also happens with that processor.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:06:14 GMT

Just found, same behavior even when I only use remote desktop (Jump desktop) to control my computer and archicad. It’s obviously not related to any physical input device.

How can we raise this as a bug to GRAPHISOFT?

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:07:31 GMT

@Lingwisyer wrote:
Is there any delay between when you select an entity and it highlighting?

yes. some delay like 1 sec. I assume it is because it takes some time to initiate the "move" command.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Barry Kelly — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 06:22:14 GMT

@Scraptrash wrote:

How can we raise this as a bug to GRAPHISOFT?

The best way is to contact your local Archicad support.

https://graphisoft.com/contact-us

Barry.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:10:24 GMT

I am regularly reporting the issues raised on the Forums to Graphisoft.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Roderick Anderson — Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:17:26 GMT

@Laszlo Nagy I can report that last night I used my M3 Max equipped MacBook Pro and I did not notice this behavior at all. I worked for about 3 hours straight, and the program’s behavior was as I would expect. It would allow me to select several items by Shift-clicking on them one by one without having to have a pause between each selection.

Quite interesting that the change in chip changes the behavior of the program, but somehow I suspected that this would be the case.

I will keep on testing and if there if any change I’ll report it here.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 02:06:20 GMT

So I’ll need to upgrade to M3….hold on let me hit the buy button first…😌

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Scraptrash — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 10:57:00 GMT

Would there be any update from GRAPHISOFT? Is there a way to mark “unresolved” in the topic?

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Karol Argasinski — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 17:39:39 GMT

Hi,

same with me - same M1Max, same devices.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Roderick Anderson — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 17:49:33 GMT

As an update on my side:

Mac Studio M1 Max: Still keeps happening, sometimes more evident than others. But at each work session with this unit it WILL happen no matter what.
MacBook Pro M3 Max: Still has not happened in the work sessions so far.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Karol Argasinski — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 17:51:10 GMT

Hi Roderick,

on my side it is both AC27 and AC26 (INT and Polish language versions). I have the newest macOS Sonoma, but it was happening from the day one for me with Ventura.

Re: Apple M1 Units - I select items and they always want to move

Msilva — Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:19:15 GMT

This has been driving me crazy for like two years. Nice to see more people with the same problem.