topic Re: Autosave files location in Modeling

Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 00:16:32 GMT

If you have more than one project open, and you have an energy cut/failure, when you restart the computer and Archicad, all projects that were open, appears in that start-page. Great! BUT, you have to choose just one to recover in this moment. To recover the other ones, you have two ways:
1: open the Archicad, recover one project, save, close Archicad, start it again, start-page, choose another, one by one until it ends...
OR
2 (MAC): Finder > Go > Go to file... > ~/library > Application Support > Graphisoft > Autosave-25 folder > Find your desired project ".fdb" file, in between several folder and ".fdb" files... (ohhhh my)!
The 2 solution, I refuse myself to do. So, I only take solution 1, that could be hard sometimes.
It should be great, if these autosave files, appears in "File > Recent Files" or even better, make sense create an exclusive section for autosave files in this "files "menu.

Re: Autosave files location

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 00:22:07 GMT

@Vinicius Lima wrote:

1: open the Archicad, recover one project, save, close Archicad, start it again, start-page, choose another, one by one until it ends...

I can't say I have ever had to recover more than one file at a time, but couldn't you just open multiple Archicads?

There should be no need to open, recover, save, close, open, recover, save, close....

Each Archicad you open should have the same start screen with all of the files to be recovered I would have thought.

So just open, recover, save, open, recover, save....

Barry.

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Fri, 30 Dec 2022 22:14:57 GMT

Actually in Mac the Archicad dock icon, does not give me the option of opening a second/third Archicad (even with the second mouse click). And I cannot put anything on the desktop because of the company restrictions. But, the point is that it feels that autosave files are hidden from the users, while it should be easier to find, because it works very fine, and it's an important safety matter.

Re: Autosave files location

vdentello — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:11:20 GMT

Open Applescrit editor, type:

do shell script "open -n '/Applications/GRAPHISOFT/Archicad 26 Apple Silicon/Archicad 26.app'"

And save as An application, with "run only".

Paste into the folder and drag to launch bar. Of course you have to correct the path to the application if that's the case.
the "-n" argument after open and before the path tells OS to open a new instance.

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:02:11 GMT

Vitor,
this is exactly what I'm looking for. You nailed it! Thanks!

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:15:49 GMT

I went to look for the recommended file location and there is nothing there. Any idea why it would direct itself to save in a file location that does not exist?

Any clue on how to find autosaved files if this is the case? Somehow a much older version of my file is back to a much older version and I have lost weeks of updates.

Please help.

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:05:23 GMT

Hello my friend.
You should go to the "User" Library (last file in the second column of your printscreen - not the general library as you did)... But you should do like I said using the command "Go" in the finder top-menu, than "Go to file..." and type "~/library" and hit enter... Because this library is a folder that the OS keeps (normaly) "hidden"...
See if it works... let me know! Good luck.

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 22:17:16 GMT

Thank you for replying, Vinicius-

I tried that too but in that folder there is no Application Support Folder- see attached

Then I tried what you said- "Go" in the finder top-menu, than "Go to file..." and type "~/library" and hit enter... and nothing happened.

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:29:12 GMT

I only see "Go to Folder" not "Got to File"

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:35:40 GMT

The second print its right. Should have worked. I found this link in the web, try it too:
(might be something different in you OS setup, see that the link describles the 2º option just like I did)

https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360020012418-Accessing-the-Hidden-User-Library-macOS

Re: Autosave files location

Barry Kelly — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 00:38:09 GMT

There will be nothing (or should be nothing) in the autosaved folders if your Archicad has not crashed.

When you shut Archicad down normally, these autosaved files will automatically be cleared, so there is no point in looking for them.

It is only when Archicad crashes, it does not clear those files, so you can recover them when you restart Archicad.

There should be no need to go looking for them, if Archicad has crashed, the file will show in the start screen next time you start Archicad.

If you currently have an old version of your file, then I would suspect your file management.

You have saved the latest file in a different location to what you are looking for it.

Or you are using cloud storage and something has gone amiss there.

If you have been working on that file for weeks, I assume you have been saving it.

That newer file must be on your system somewhere, unless you have deleted it (or there has been a cloud storage issue).

I would do a search of your entire system and all connected drives for the "****.PLN" file you have lost.

Barry.

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:13:28 GMT

Yea, it's really strange.. I ⌘Save all of the time and it's impossible that I would not have saved for that long. I have shut down my computer, restarted and all of that so many times. I backed up last week to my external drive so I'm going to see if I find it there.

Thank you.

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:25:43 GMT

Do you know how I would find the file on my backup drive?

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:20:30 GMT

Exactly Berry! Actually the discussion here has deviated from the topic itself, which the best solution for it was given by Victor. Thanks for clarifying these informations for the colleague.

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:37:45 GMT

Dear @annelesperance, as @Barry Kelly explained, it seems like you don't have any problems/questions about Archicad. If you save it, it will be saved where you saved it. If the software has not crashed, there will be no files in the autosave folder. If you have made any backups in a cloud or physical drive and having problem find a backup, you should seek support from the providers of these systems respectively. Sorry about your lost file, hope you find it somewhere.

Re: Autosave files location

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:28:19 GMT

As a heads up this is unnecessary and not correct.

If you have multiple ACs that crash next time you open AC you can select all of them by shift clicking and click "Open Selected".

Any one you don't need you can click the red "X" to remove from the list.

Re: Autosave files location

annelesperance — Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:33:43 GMT

It's weird though, that the file on the backup from last week is more recent that what was saved to the original file on my HD. Somehow it reverted back to a version from longer ago...that's why I was hoping to recover it through Archicad.

Re: Autosave files location

Barry Kelly — Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:56:20 GMT

@annelesperance wrote:

It's weird though, that the file on the backup from last week is more recent that what was saved to the original file on my HD. Somehow it reverted back to a version from longer ago...that's why I was hoping to recover it through Archicad.

I can guarantee it is not Archicad's fault.

Archicad can't suddenly decide not to save the latest files.

Either you have chosen (accidentally) not to save them or you have somehow managed to save them somewhere else.

Or you are working in a cloud sync folder that is not syncing properly and you manged to open an older file, worked on it and it has replaced th newer file.

If Archicad crashes (which it does not sound like it has done), there will be an auto-recovery file in the start menu then next time you start Archicad.

Barry.

Re: Autosave files location

Vinicius Lima — Sun, 24 Mar 2024 20:43:37 GMT

It is an improvement knowing that. But... even so, If you have 3 AC opened, and just one crashes, in Mac, you cannot access the start page without closing all of them, or doing the solution that the user @vdentello gave us.

Re: Autosave files location

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 25 Mar 2024 01:27:20 GMT

True about the window but wrong about it being the only way to open them.

If one of the 3 crashes and you select to create a New file from one of the remaining sessions with launch a new instance of AC selected you will get an option to open the "crashed" file.

Does not matter how many other files you have opened and closed meanwhile, but try to recover it as soon as possible.